[FONT=&]Ever hear about "Lifelog?" You know, the DARPA project to create an automatically updated, itemized, organized, electronic list of every interaction you have, every event you attend, every place you go and everything you do? The project that was announced as canceled the time Facebook launched.
In my years arguing with the official story folks i found one argument particularly odd Fact one they are confident that the damage from the impact and fires from the jetliners collisions with the towers was sufficient to have caused the collapses But when you mention demolition, the requirements to have brought down the structures suddenly change and now it requires a massive preparatory scheme that would have had to have gotten at all the core columns, and other pivotal support structures, and would have taken weeks if not months of preparation to have accomplished Hopefully that gaping contradiction does not need further elaboration Perhaps obvios to many of you but I have never seen it clearly stated
Posted by: Matt Grantham - 05-07-2018, 08:06 PM - Forum: 911
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H I would have preferred to introduce myself by slowly replying to some posts since i am new to the forum However-
Number one thank you for the awesome forum here Maybe a couple of thoughts on the significance of forums such as this for starters In pretty much all of the areas I work in terms of activism, I am constantly asking why groups will not consider a discussion forum format such as this, in lieu of both Facebook groups and list serves. Those things have their place, but the under utilization of simple discussion forums continues to mystify me I posted several times at the 9/11Truth movement Facebook page on whether folks there were interested in a discussion forum, in addition to the Facebook page, but virtually no response.Separately, but perhaps related, is the fact the level of discussion there is pretty disappointing, and perhaps that is part of the reason there is no interest in forum formats. While I give those here credit, it seems like the level of participants is pretty low considering this seems like the number one discussion forum of its type that offers a 9/11 forum page this not meant as criticism of the page as mush as it is of the general movement
I am not going to spend too much time on my background I was at Sonoma State University in California majoring in philosophy in 2005, when I met Peter Phillips of Project Censored. I became pretty involved with him regarding 9/11, and attended several conferences including the 2008 Truth Emergency Conference in Santa Cruz at his invitation. I also had hours and hours of conversation with Janice Mathews and Mike Berger of 9/11Truth.org back in the 07 to 10 time period I also spent some time on my own projects, which included efforts to make one page handouts on various truth topics. these included; the four flights, the collapses,and other topics. The one page handouts were designed for conferences or perhaps local tabling, and I continue such an approach has it's place
After that I entered a period of being disillusioned on 9/11 in terms of national strategies, not so much that they are mistaken strategies, but i wanted to move to the local arena. and in that regard I turned my attention to other topics, such as local food growing , permaculture, holistic health, cooperatives, time banks and other issues that i believe hold the key to initiating communities to wake up how cooperative community engagement is a viable alternative to national level, or at least large scale approach .in my opinion communities need to fist coordinate around some of these more fundamental issues of food and health to slowly inspire community based collective efforts around these subjects to build a belief in a communities ability to connect with each in cooperative efforts which may eventually build a trust in community which may allow subjects like 9/11 to be addressed in a manner that the national media never will
I have put a lot of effort in organizing a website that categorizes the topics of food, health, cooperative community action and associated topics. I have several hundreds of drop down menus etc I mention that not to draw interest in it, but to explain in some ways that is where my heart remains. However for several months I have been on unemployment and suffering with kidney stones and strong meds, This former facts has lowered my intellectual capabilities to a point that it has made it hard to continue to focus my mind to the point of developing my website So with the free time and a diminished capacity of I have returned to 9/11 efforts I hope that does not give t he impression that I give 9/11 a second fiddle kind of context since that is not my point My dedication to local food and health issue arose with the belief that those efforts could eventually provide an avenue for the import of 9/11 to be expressed through the local better than the chances of national campaigns alone
To try to wrap up my current interest is in trying to create a grassroots based organization that is of course, by defiinition, not organized in an hierarchical manner Likely this is over idealized since the tendencies towards hierarchy are strongly imprinted and the perils of cooperative engagement are well documented Nonetheless it is my thing to a great degree, and I suggested a cooperative effort be considered by those at the 9/11Truth Facebook page in forming a simple website that could gather resources and arguments by category in the pursuit of making a more meaningful long term grassroots organization. This proposition got the attention of someone who recommended that I talk to someone from 9/11 TAP I am not necessarily expecting a response to any of this, but i suppose it was meant as both an introduction of me and my ideas and a bit of a critique of where the movement stands. I still i am also interested in simply replying to the existing threads and more conventional topics. Thanks
If or when the President nominates Mike Lee or any Mormon for the U.S. Supreme Court
it will be the final, inescapable link in a chain being forged around us by the religio/politic
combined Coup D'etat of 22 November 1963.
I started this thread at EF yet the H&L crowd has yet to pick it up.... We all know there were quite a few sightings of Oswald NOT in New Orleans during the summer of 1963...
This declaration from Linnie Mae comes a week after testifying to only first seeing MARINA in October 1963.... which is the lie?[URL="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25019-linnie-mae-randle-2-sets-of-oswalds-summer-1963-and-a-lie"]
The Summer of 1963.... In April of 1963, Lee Oswald moves to New Orleans
Marina is in New Orleans from May 10 until Sept 24 1963
Lee is working for Reilly Coffee (supposedly) yet is easily proven that he is living and working in New Orleans throughout the summer of 1963...
On the other hand, there are numerous reports of Oswald sightings OUTSIDE of New Orleans... including Florida training camps (a film exists), at the Carousel working for Ruby, etc...
Dorothy Marcum was dating Jack Ruby in the summer of 1963 and her aunt worked for Ruby.109 Dorothy told the FBI she knew for a fact that Lee Oswald and Jack Ruby knew each other, because Oswald worked for Ruby in June and July (1963). In the summer of 1963 Jack Ruby was interviewing Francis Irene Hise for a job as a waitress when a young man came into the Carousel Club. Ruby acknowledged the man by saying "Hi, Ozzie" and later joined him in the back room after finishing the interview with Francis. After Ruby hired Miss Hise the same young man came into the bar and asked if he could buy her a drink. After the assassination Miss Hise recognized "Ozzie" as "Lee Harvey Oswald."
Other Ruby employees who claim to have seen Oswald at Ruby's Carousel Club include William Crowe, Wally Weston, Dixie Lynn, and Kathy Kay.
One would think there would not be too much incentive to state Oswald was with Ruby at that time... yet they do... and here's come icing on the cake Wesley's sister, living around the corner from the Paine's, tell us that LEE AND MARINA are seen "in the vicinity" of the Paine residence on numerous occasions .... This would be at the same time JUDY BAKER claims to be spending time with a married Oswald in New Orleans.... yet....
Testimony given MARCH 11, 1964
Mrs. RANDLE. Well, I believe it was the first week in October. Mr. BALL. That is the first time you had ever met Mrs. Oswald? Mrs. RANDLE. Officially met her. I had seen her out in the yard and through the neighbor I knew who she was, I hadn't met her until that time.
1 week later this report is written after an interview on the 16th... only 5 days later. Why would the FBI be questioning her AFTER the testimony and
why would Linnie Mae offer that information... "advised she recalls"
One more RANDLE connection:
Wesley lived with Linnie Mae, her husband BILL RANDLE and 3 kids - or rather they lived with him (his mother and stepfather had arrived a week prior to the 22... he was in the hospital ill on the 22nd. BILL RANDLE indicated he personally knew LEE H OSWALD - but nothing about that was discussed or asked about by the "ace" FBI agent HT BURK... on the other hand, http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/R Disk/Randle Bill William Evert/Item 02.pdf includes this FBI Randle report - including paragraph 4 - and another report summary from the Secret Service - IOW both the FBI and SS wanted to know about BILL just not what he meant in the statement below about knowing him... One wonders why he'd mention an association to the FBI but have the SS state the opposite.... ???
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I am still working on a more enlightening presentation on the criticism of Judyth Vary Baker. I would like to personally understand better why there is much more outrage about the book by Baker (which may contain embellishments) and books such as "Dallas 1963" by Minutaglio and Davis which is total deception and lies cover to cover. And "Dallas 1963" was often to be found in bookstores and at least two libraries which I frequent, INCLUDING THE AUDIO BOOK.
Below I am listing the top 21 names and number of citations in Baker's book "Me and Lee" and Jim Garrison's book "On The Trail of The Assassins."
The statistical correlation between the two lists is 62%.
In my factor analysis of the top 30 JFK books, factor number three was "New Orleans Suspects.." On that factor, below are the statistical loadings (much like correlations) based on the 100 most often cited names in the "New Orleans" books:
Farewell to Justice by Joan Mellen----------------.68
Me and Lee by J V Baker--------------------------.67
Heritage of Stone by Jim Garrison----------------.59
On The Trail of The Assassins by Garrison--------.51
In contrast, below are the loadings on the same factor for other well-known books
Road to Dallas by David Kaiser---------------------.18
Warren Commission---------------------------------.29
The Man Who Knew Too Much by Dick Russell-----.19
Rush to Judgment by Mark Lane--------------------.02
So based on pure statistical correlation of names and citations, it comes out that Baker's suspects are almost identical to those of Joan Mellen and very close to those of Jim Garrison.
I am listing this information is listed for two reasons: (1) Because such a huge emphasis is placed on the single book by Baker in many, many places on the internet, and (2) as a plug for my method of comparing various JFK books by using mathematics rather that emotional put-downs perhaps based on God knows what kind of motivations.