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  Jack Ruby - What the FBI knew after he shot Oswald
Posted by: James Lewis - 06-06-2018, 04:16 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (4)

Just ran into what I consider to be quite the interesting document concerning Jack Ruby and what the FBI knew about and was investigating immediately after he shot Oswald.

On 11/25/1963, the FBI had contacted no less than eleven separate PCI's (Potential Criminal Informants) in and around the Albuquerque, NM area as to whether they knew or associated with Ruby. And through those contacts, they knew about Ruby's close relationship with the Dallas Police Department. An informant named Jack Hardee stated that Ruby had a "good in" with the DPD, based on the fact that Ruby was, according to Hardee, running a "B-girl operation where drinks were pushed heavily and they had no interference from the police department.". Hardee also stated that Ruby had the area where his Carousel Club was located, "all sewed up". Hardee also stated that he was not aware of any Chicago underworld connections or any EXTREMIST or SUBVERSIVE connections that Ruby may have had. Interesting choice of words, those were.

And speaking of Chicago: On 11/24 and 11/25/1963, the FBI contacted no less than seven PCI's about possible activities of Ruby in Chicago. Subjects included what he was doing before he left Chicago for Dallas, and his ties to known mobsters in that area, including an Abe Zuckerman, Ross Prior, and most notably, Anthony "Tony" Accardo. In fact, one of the named Informants, a Bernard Glickman, had actually attempted to contact Accardo about information relating to Ruby. It was also related to the Bureau that Ruby may have had to leave Chicago because he reportedly stiffed mobster Lenny Patrick on profits relating to a bookmaking operation Ruby was running. And again, Ruby was cleared of being involved in "subversive" activities.

(Interesting and possibly disinformational note here: One of the sources the FBI talked to mentioned that, allegedly, Ruby had tried to sneak into a boxing match [the second Jack Dempsey-Gene Tunney fight], and had been hit in the head by a police officer with a night stick. The informant stated that as a result, Ruby had a plate in his head. According to the informant, the plate supposedly caused pressure when Ruby became excited, thereby leading Ruby to "act emotionally.". I have a feeling that this may have been disinformation, seeing as I've never heard that about Ruby before.)

On 11/25/1963, the FBI contacted eleven PCI's in Los Angeles about Ruby's possible activities there, with no results.

On 11/25/1963, the FBI contacted 13 PCI's in New Orleans
and other Louisiana locations concerningg Ruby's possible activities there. None claimed to have any knowledge of Ruby prior to him shooting Oswald. Which sort of begs the question of why the FBI was digging around in New Orleans concerning Ruby, especially given New Orleans' later vital importance in Jim Garrison's investigation.

The FBI also contacted informants in San Juan, Puerto Rico (11/26/1963), and Tampa, Florida (11/25/1963). Tampa is interesting to me because of its place as one of Santos Trafficante's strongholds.

To summarize:

1 - The FBI was digging into Ruby's organized crime connections all over the place, and IMMEDIATELY after he shot Oswald. Places like Albuquerque, San Juan, and Tampa, which I'd never heard of in the JFK case until now.

2 - At that same time, the FBI was well aware of Ruby's deep ties to the Dallas PD, and apparently never mentioned this to the Warren Commission, or anyone else for that matter.

3 - The FBI seemed to be DEEPLY interested in Ruby's ties to organized crime figures in New Orleans, in particular. Which likely explains why, as far as I can tell, these documents never made it to the Warren Commission.

Just some food for thought.



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  New podcast on RFK, JFK . . . and Ernst Lubitsch
Posted by: Joseph McBride - 05-06-2018, 09:42 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS8vjU20R68

In this new 82-minute podcast commemorating the
50th anniversary of Robert Kennedy's assassination
and to honor the public statements by two of his children
that they don't believe the official story about Sirhan
Sirhan killing their father, I also discuss the JFK
assassination. At the end, I spend 19 minutes
discussing my newly released book on director Ernst Lubitsch,
HOW DID LUBITSCH DO IT?, a nine-year labor of love. Lubitsch died long before
the assassinations but provides a vision of a more
civilized world. Bob Wilson joins me for the discussion
on Bart Sibrel's CONSPIRACY CORNER NEWS.

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  Jim DiEugenio Zings Chris Mattthews' Bio of RFK
Posted by: Jim DiEugenio - 05-06-2018, 04:51 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (18)

I am posting this here since its as much about JFK as RFK, since they were pretty co existent until 1963.

Although this is better than his book on JFK, its still pretty disappointing. I mean when you cannot bring yourself to print the words NSAM 263, 27 years after the fact and also 26 years after John Newman's book, something is wrong with you.

Anyway, please enjoy. Comment if you can.

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/04/di...y-kennedy/

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  A Theory On The Genesis Of The Plot
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 03-06-2018, 05:06 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (2)

THURSDAY, MAY 24, 2018

"We now know" - Bill Turner



We Now Know - Bill Turner by Bill Kelly

At one of the COPA Conferencces in Dallas, former FBI agent and original JFK assassination investigator Bill Turner said:

"We now know to a fairly good degree of certainty what happened at Dealey Plaza. The motives were piling up - the Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, Vietnam, the backchannel to Cuba, - the motives were piling up to the point they had to assassinate him. I think its' pretty obvious, with the compilation of the information we have today, that the mechanizm of the crime came out of the alligence between the CIA and the Mafia. They already had an assassination apparatus set up for killing Castro, and they just switched targets and killed Kennedy instead."

So of all the theories about the assassination, the one that holds water is the one that looks closely at the CIA - Mafia plots to kill Castro.

As we have seen and others have detailed, the CIA first began to consort with the Mafia dons - John Rosselli and Sam Giancana during the Eisenhower administration, and with the sanction of CIA director Allen Dulles, himself no stranger to assassination plots.

That began the first part of the CIA - Mafia association, and included a number of plots to poison Castro, none of which came to frutation.

Then the CIA-Mafia plots reaached as second stage, when William Harvey returned to the US from Germany, where he ran the Berlin tunnel operation, and was promoted to head the special Cuban Task Force set up in the basemen of the CIA HQ and called Task Force W.

Giancana was dumped from these plans - as the plottings were replaced by contingincy plans - and Harvey himself replaced Jim O'Donnell as Rosselli's case officer and good friend.

From poinson, the Castro plans moved on to more reliable means of execution, including shooting Castro with a high powered rifle as he rode around in an open jeep, as he often did.





In developing a contingency plan you must review previous, similar plans that have been used and serve as historical models - and two such examples exist - the British MI6 assassination of Nazi official Reinhard Hydrich in Check on June 4, 1942 in Prague, Czech Rep., and the failed August 22, 1962 attack on French President Charles deGaulle by French military disenchanged with plan to free colonial French Algeria.


The attack on Hydrich was orchestrated by Czech agents trained by MI6, and utilized a tight turn in the road that required the motorcade and car he was riding in to slow down when the attack from multiple assailants succedeed, as caan be seen in the popular movie, Anthropoid.

The name Anthropoid comes from the MI6 code name for the operation, as one thing that distinguishes a plot from a planned covert operation is an operation is given a code name that is only know among the perpetuators.

But the backlash against the successful Anthropoid operation was so great in the ruthless Nazis taking of human life against everyone who knew or associated with assailants, thousands of innocent civilians were tortured and killed, that the British MI6 declined the later opportunity to have a sniper kill Hitler as he daily walked through a rose garden.

The French affair is also a significant role model for what happened at Dealey Plaza, though it failed, as there were lessens to be learned.

President Kennedy had urged President deGaulle to free Algeria as a colony, and he was inclined to do so, but the French generals balked at the idea, as they had developed the French Foreign Legion from an army of misfits to one of the most famous fighting forces in the world, and they didn't want to lose their sandbox battlefield.

The Organisation armee secrete or OAS - Secret Army Organization that staged an attack on deGaul's motorcade in Paris on August 22, 1962.

In one of documents released under the JFK Act, a State Department report from the Paris office of Security, refers to a meeting with M. Andre Ducret, the Commissaire divisionnaire de Police concerning the attempted assassination of deGaul. Ducret "disclosed that the ambush had been organized and directed by a person of military experience and this was immediately noticed. The tactics employed were similar to those used by the infantry in attacking convoys...."

Like the attack on Heidrich, this OAS attack on deGaulle was at an intersection where the motorcade of cars and motorcycles had to slow down to almost a complete stop, much like Dealey Plaza.

And sure enough, Jean-Marie Bastien, a French Air Force aeronautical engineer, was apprehended and admitted having organized the attempt. President deGaulle pardoned a few of those convicted for their participation in the attempted assassination - but Bastien was executed in March 1963, a week after the trial. 2,000 policeman were posted along the route used to take him to his execution. Bastein may have been the last person to be executed in France.

The attempt to kill deGaulle was made into a movie, The Day of the Jackel, though the shooting of deGaulle as he gave a speech replaced the "military style attack on a motorcade," that included 187 spent shell casings and 15 bulletl holes in deGaulle's car (a Citroen DS) Two other bullets hit the tires (Michelin), yet the car was able to escape at nearlly full speed.

President deGaulle and the security chief credited the endurance of the car and the tires for saving his life.

The OAS assassination attempts on deGaulle are connected to what happened at Dealey Plaza by the Houma Bunker Raid on Jean deMeniel's Schulumberger munitions bunker at an old Louisiana Navy base that included a number of New Orleans characters who associated with Oswald. Those munitions were taken to Guy Bannister's office and David Ferrie's apartment and were said to be set for use by the anti-Castro Cubans at the Bay of Pigs or the OAS in France.

While these two historical examples were known and studied by the CIA, just as it studied in detail the July 20, 1944 German military plot to kill Hitler, the one CIA contingency plan to kill Castro that interests me the most was code named PATHFINDER.

PATHFINDER, according to the records of it that have survived, was a CIA contingency plan presented to the National Security Council (NSC) for approval, but was "disapproved by higher authority."

We know that JFK himself, or RFK in his place, reviewed most if not all of the proposed covert operations against Cuba, as JFK was asked to approve a relatively harmless propaganda leaflet drop, a psychological warfare operation, that he "disapproved" after consulting with William Morrow, the head of the US Information Agency. So if he reviewed and disapproved that minor operation, he must have been asked to approve the PATHFINDER plan to kill Castro, and disapproved that one too.

We only know about PATHFINDER because of the reports of National Photo Interpretation Center (NPIC) technicians who were stationed at JMWAVE told the Assassinations Records Review Board (ARRB) that the CIA kept the PATHFINDER files in their files section of the station rather than where it should have been.

PATHFINDER was a plan to kill Castro with a high power rifle while he rode past in an open jeep near "Xandau," the exquisite DuPont estate that Castro confiscated, and where he was known to frequent.

The JMWAVE NPIC technicians provided the contingency planners with U2 photos of the area and architect drawings of the estate. Nearby was a residence of Rolando Cubella (AMLASH), who was to be provided with a rifle with a scope, but the job required a trained and reliable first class sniper, one trained by the CIA at their JMWAVE sniper training base at Point Mary, near Key Largo, Florida.

The teams that were trained there by a US Army Ranger major (Roderick), who was transferred to the CIA for the job by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were infiltrated into Cuba by the JMWAVE Maritime ships.

Some of the anti-Castro Cuban commandos trained at the CIA's JMWAVE station bases were also supported financially and fanatically by a number of wealthy Americans - William Paley, Clare Booth Luce and John Rosselli.

While Luce's "boys," as she called them were led by a team leader - Julio Fernandez, and trained by US Ranger Capt. Bradley Ayers, Rosselli's team was trained at Point Mary, and included the snipers, whose names should be among the JMWAVE records inspected by the Church and HSCA and released by the JFK Act.

Rosselli later said, and as he reports to Jack Anderson in the Rosselli Chronology file that was recently released by the NARA, that one of his teams was infiltrated into Cuba, but never returned or reported back, and he assumed they were among those captured by Castro forces.

What became of the PATHFINDER file from JMWAVE's NPIC section?

In 1996 two AARC staff talked to Velma Reumann, who worked at the NPIC from 1963-1966. According to their report, "She has a strong, independent recollection of NPC personnel boxing-up all photographic materials related to the assassination on the orders of Robert Kennedy and sending them to the Smithsonian Museum for permanent storage sometime within 6 months or so after the assassination."

"She cannot remember whether the orders from Robert Kennedy were in writing, or oral, but she was quite firmly of the impression in 1996 that the direction had come from Robert Kennedy.

"In order to test the strength of her Smithsonian recollection (she) was asked whtehr she may have been confusing the Smithsonian and the National Archives or some other government body; she replied emplatically that she knew the difference between the National Archives and the Smithsonian, and reiterat that the boxed material (from NPIC) went to the Smithsonian. She said that she was certain of this because she, herself, was required to call an offical at the Smithsonian to discuss the imminent transfer, and recalls that the individual to whom she spoke was surprised by the selection of the Smithsonian as she was."

In any case, we now know, to a fairly good degree of certainty, that the Dealey Plaza Operation was originally devised as a contingency plan to kill Castro, it involved the Cuban military as it was strategically based on the German VALKYRIE plan to kill Hitler, and the tactically the PATHFINDER plan to shoot Castro with a high powered rifle as he rode in an open vehicle, or a similar plan. And as with both VALKYRIE and PATHFINDER included the psychwar disinformation twist to blame the murder on Communists.

As Bill Turner put it, the mechanism was in place to kill Castro, and they just switched targets.

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  England prepare for world cup
Posted by: Paul Rigby - 01-06-2018, 12:51 AM - Forum: Lounge - Replies (7)

Mike Bassett: England Manager - Top 5 Moments

[video=youtube_share;mwAygb82m1Y]http://youtu.be/mwAygb82m1Y[/video]

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  The genius of Trumpian oratory
Posted by: Paul Rigby - 31-05-2018, 11:11 PM - Forum: Lounge - No Replies

[video=youtube_share;hgClTfCmYgU]http://youtu.be/hgClTfCmYgU[/video]

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  Mili Cranor Demolishes the latest Pseudo Science on JFK
Posted by: Jim DiEugenio - 31-05-2018, 09:19 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (3)

These people never give up. I really think that at every anniversary, someone in the Shadow Government goes to some young scientist and says we can help you advance your career if you do a favor for us.

The guy says yes, and does not realize how bad the circumstances are until after. In other words he has to deceive and rely on previous hacks. The new idiot, Nalli actually tries to say a brain can weigh 2100 grams. Among other things. Cranor taught him a lesson.

https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/05/31/scient...r-does-he/

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  CIA Memo To Kissinger On Brazil's Dictator Using Torture & Executions
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 31-05-2018, 08:10 AM - Forum: Historical Events - Replies (3)

CIA memo shows Brazil's ex-dictator authorized torture and executions



Newly unearthed document details Ernesto Geisel's approval of over 100 executions of subversives', sparking immediate outcry in Brazil



Tom Phillips Latin America correspondent
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The memorandum was sent to then secretary of state Henry Kissinger by CIA chief William Colby on 11 April 1974. Photograph: PA[FONT=&amp]Brazil's former dictator Ernesto Geisel personally approved the summary execution of his regime's perceived enemies, according to a newly unearthed CIA memo that has reopened a bitter debate over one of the darkest chapters of contemporary Brazilian history.

Matias Spektor, the São Paulo-based academic who discovered and distributed the document on Thursday, called it "the most disturbing I have read in 20 years of research".

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The memorandum, sent to then secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, by the CIA director, William Colby, on 11 April 1974, details a meeting it said had taken place a few days earlier between Geisel and three Brazilian generals.

One tells Geisel, who ruled Brazil from 1974 until 1979, the regime "cannot ignore the subversive and terrorist threat" it faces. "Extra-legal methods should continue to be employed against dangerous subversives," Gen Milton Tavares de Souza is quoted as saying.
De Souza informs Geisel that 104 such "subversives" were summarily executed by military intelligence in the previous year a policy a second general insists should continue.
According to the US account, Geisel notes that such killings could be "potentially prejudicial" and asks for a few days to consider whether such tactics are appropriate. The following week Brazil's president concludes "the policy should continue but that great care should be taken to make certain that only dangerous subversives were executed".

The revelation sparked an immediate outcry in Brazil where Geisel, who died in 1996, is remembered as one of the more benign leaders of Brazil's 1964-1985 military dictatorship, who oversaw a gradual relaxation after a brutal five-year period known as the anos de chumbo or years of lead.
A 2014 report by Brazil's truth commission blamed the dictatorship for at least 191 killings and 210 disappearances.

"It's an astonishing document," Pedro Dallari, the former head of that commission, told the G1 news website, calling on the armed forces to face up to their responsibility for such crimes.

In a front-page article, O Globo, one of Brazil's leading newspapers, said the memo, which was published by the US state department in 2015 but only uncovered in Brazil this week, proved Geisel "gave the green light to savagery".

Ricardo Noblat, a political commentator, claimed it gave the lie to the idea that "crazed and out of control" junior officials alone were responsible for the killing and torture. "[The memo] makes it clear Geisel did far more than simply tolerate the crimes committed by his colleagues in uniform. He knew about and authorized many of them."
The focus on the junta's murderous tactics comes amid an upsurge in support for rightwing politicians, some of whom, like presidential frontrunner Jair Bolsonaro, openly praise the dictatorship's iron rule.

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Bolsonaro shrugged off Geisel's alleged sanctioning of summary executions on Friday. "Who's never given their kid a spank on the bum and then regretted it? These things happen," he was quoted as saying by the Estado de São Paulo.

Susanna Lira, a film-maker whose latest documentary, Torre das Donzelas, focuses on a notorious dictatorship-era jail whose inmates included ex-president Dilma Rousseff, called the memo a "staggering" reminder of torture, murder and disappearances committed by the military regime.

"Most worrying of all is knowing that to this very day we have high-flying politicians who defend such methods as state policies," Lira added.

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  RFK Jr. doesn't believe Sirhan shot his father
Posted by: Joseph McBride - 27-05-2018, 05:45 AM - Forum: Political Assassinations - Replies (1)

RFK Jr. says he met with Sirhan and does not believe
Sirhan shot his father. This is of relevance on the
JFK site as well, since RFK Jr. is the most prominent
Kennedy family member to express doubts about
both official verdicts. It seems he may be writing
a book about his father's murder, which would
be valuable. This story appears in, of all places,
the Washington Post, though it carefully avoids
mentioning RFK's probable assassin, Thane Eugene (Gene) Cesar.
The story quotes Dan Moldea, Cesar's protector and apologist,
but does so skeptically.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2a53fa62dcaf

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  RFK Jr. dissents
Posted by: Joseph McBride - 27-05-2018, 05:44 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination - Replies (9)

RFK Jr. says he met with Sirhan and does not believe
Sirhan shot his father. This is of relevance on the
JFK site as well, since RFK Jr. is the most prominent
Kennedy family member to express doubts about
both official verdicts. It seems he may be writing
a book about his father's murder, which would
be valuable. This story appears in, of all places,
the Washington Post, though it carefully avoids
mentioning RFK's probable assassin, Thane Eugene (Gene) Cesar.
The story quotes Dan Moldea, Cesar's protector and apologist,
but does so skeptically.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retr...53fa62dcaf

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