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9/11 Live Airplane Composite Theory
#21
I find more compelling than total video fakery [that no planes or drones hit the WTC 1 & 2, but a film was made to make it appear so], that it might not have been the flights advertised, or the planes were not standard planes, or that drones of similar size and form were substituted, or even that the 'real' flights were directed into the buildings - although I doubt that under the control of real hijackers. Spy

911 is a complex matter, but not so complex it can't be determined; nor at this point that honest and intelligent/diligent persons can't decide if the official version is truth [not]or fairy tale [totally]. The details, I think, are slowly falling into a better assemblage of the puzzle pieces.

Some people get locked into their own theories and won't give ém up, even when the theory doesn't fit the evidence. Others are, sadly, but predictably, spouting knowingly false and confusing alternate theories [as was done with Dallas and all the other high-profile citizen investigated events of Deep Politics], in order to muddy the waters and create doubt and confusion for those not immersed in the subject and even some so immersed.

In my mind a good researcher will be willing to change their viewpoint and theories, as new information emerges. I know I have on 911 and even a little on Dallas - no major changes; just tweeking/tacking as new info comes to light. Some ideas, however, I find do not even engage me; and on their face seem to be either luny or disinfo.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
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#22
Truth be known, I suffer from a kind of split personality, not the kind induced by repeated multiple trauma -- though it can be said perhaps that I am a distant victim of same, if not more directly -- but more than one psychologist and psychiatrist have pronounced me sane, stable, grounded, etc. I speak of a wide-legged stance, perhaps, having one foot in the present and one foot in the past, and I find that the foot in the past is slipping farther back in time. Today, I sit here watching my country, and the future of my children and grand-children, being placed in jeopardy by forces far different that I learned about in high school, and I look around trying to make sense of things. We face debt burden, devastating depression, unemployment, food issues, and more.

I was very caught up in 9/11 for some time -- I saw it coming for weeks, I was in the field of emergency services, I cut my teeth on being a firefighter, my daughter was in Queens that day in grad school and it was she who let me know of the event by e-mail -- but time moves on, and it was clear that the US government was lying and wasn't going to investigate anything seriously. I spent a good deal of my time professionally in the field of emergency management; I was a "victim" during the drills my step-mopther ran as a Captain in the Civil Defense in the early 1950's. I have written professionally on mass casualty incident management, training through simulation, and worked as a subject matter expert for a DARPA-driven process that brought military-style simulation exercises to computer desktops to teach civilians how to manage the outbreak of pathogenic disease, so I know something about simulation.

I do recall earlier experiences and personal research into the assassinations of the 60's -- nothing even close to that of many of the people here -- and the nagging lack of conclusion that left me.

Today (6/2/2011), I am reading of the events and individuals swirling in and around The Great War; about a month ago, I read a book based on documents and articles written in the 1790's, both relevant to the question of fakery and chicanery on that severe clear day.

Debating the plane, fake plane, no plane, video plane, which plane issues is, imho, a waste of my time. I have four incomplete writing projects waiting for me to get a round tuit.

I am already on record in a number of places; as I participated in a group of people debating censorship issues, strategy and tactics swirling around the great 9/11 debate, someone asked what I thought, and I wrote Metsuke and posted it in at least four locations, including here.

I'm sorry, Kyle, but that is going to have to suffice for now; I decline your gauntlet for the final time.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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#23
Sure, you've no interest in discussing the topic of this thread which you created, and rather prefer to waste other peoples time by prattling on at length here about all sorts of things which nobody inquired about. I get it.
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#24
No, you don't.
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#25
I'm done prattling in this thread. I have too much reading to do. "Gentleman Spy" arrived via inter-library, "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" showed up yesterday, Jeff Sharlet's duo several days ago and, CD, I called Kris today and ordered "A Certain Arrogance". Oh, and Maggie said she would deliver a kiss for me next time she saw you.
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#26
I did. lerv
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#27
It lasted 17 hours.
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#28
Well, I have to retract what I said in post #17; I guess I'm not done prattling.

I don't watch a lot of TV for a lot of reasons, but I pass by one often enough (most frequently the gargantuan flat screen on the wall at the home of my son) and, since he and may people here in the States are avid (pardon the pun) sports fans, this little question has bubbled in the back of my tiny triune mind for sufficient time and finally out popped at least a partial answer, which I will address with a number of links and excerpts from them below.

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http://damonhernandez.blogspot.com/2008/...y-101.html

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Digital fraud in Real-Time Video: Lying with Pixels
(first published July/August 2000)
http://www.rense.com/general31/pix.htm

Excerpt:

"... the technology used to "virtually delete" the skater can now be applied in real time, live, even as a camera records a scene and instantly broadcasts it to viewers. In the fraction of a second between video frames, any person or object moving in the foreground can be edited out, and objects that aren't there can be edited in and made to look real. "Pixel plasticity," Livingston calls it.... The best-known examples of real-time video manipulation so far are "virtual insertions" in professional sports broadcasts. Last January 30, for instance, nearly one-sixth of humankind in more than 180 countries repeatedly saw an orange first-down line stretched across the gridiron as they watched the Super Bowl. Princeton Video Imaging (PVI) in Lawrenceville, N.J., created that line, stored it in a computer, and inserted it into the live feed of the broadcast. To help determine where to insert the orange pixels, several game cameras were fitted with sensors that tracked the cameras spatial positions and zoom levels. Adding to the illusion of reality was the ability of the PVI system to make sure that players and referees occlude the virtual line when their bodies traverse it.

Last spring and summer, as PVI and rivals such as New York-based Sportvision were airing virtual insertion products, including simulated billboards on walls behind major league batters, a team of engineers from Sarnoff Corp. in Princeton, N.J., flew to the Coalition Allied Operations Center of NATO's Operation Allied Force in Vicenza, Italy. Their mission: transform their experimental video processing technology into an operational tool for rapidly locating and targeting Serbian military vehicles in Kosovo. The project was dubbed TIGER, for "targeting by image georegistration.... the TIGER team manipulated a live video feed from a Predator, an unmanned reconnaissance craft flying some 450 meters above Kosovo battlefields..... According to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, TIGER technology was used extensively in the final three weeks of the Kosovo operation, during which "80 to 90 percent of the mobile targets were hit."

So far, real-time video manipulation has been within the grasp only of technologically sophisticated organizations such as TV networks and the military. But developers of the technology say it's becoming simple and cheap enough to spread everywhere. And that has some observers wondering whether real-time video manipulation will erode public confidence in live television images, even when aired by news outlets. "Seeing may no longer be believing," says Norman Winarsky, corporate vice president for information technology at Sarnoff. "You may not know what to trust." ....

The combination of real-time, virtual insertion with existing and emerging post-production techniques opens up a world of manipulative opportunity. Consider Video Rewrite technology, which its developers at the Interval Corp. and the University of California, Berkeley first demonstrated publicly three years ago. [i.e., in 1997!] With just a few minutes of video of someone talking, their system captures and stores a set of video snapshots of the way that a person's mouth-area looks and moves when saying different sets of sounds. Drawing from the resulting library of "visemes" makes it possible to depict the person seeming to say anything the producers dream up -- including utterances that the subject wouldn't be caught dead saying.

In one test application, computer scientist Christoph Bregler, now of Stanford University, and colleagues digitized two minutes of public-domain footage of President John F. Kennedy speaking during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962. Using the resulting viseme library, the researchers created "animations" of Kennedy's mouth saying things he never said, among them, "I never met Forrest Gump."

So far, the widely witnessed applications of real-time video manipulation have been in benign arenas like sports and entertainment. Already last year, however, the technology began diffusing beyond these venues into applications that raised eyebrows. Last fall, for instance, CBS hired PVI to virtually insert the network's familiar logo all over New York City -- on buildings, billboards, fountains and other places-during broadcasts of the network's The Early Show. The New York Times ran a front-page story in January raising questions about the journalistic ethics of altering the appearance of what is really there.

The combination of real-time virtual insertion, cyber-puppeteering, video rewriting and other video manipulation technologies with a mass-media infrastructure that instantly delivers news video worldwide has some analysts worried. "Imagine you are the government of a hypothetical country that wants more international financial assistance," says George Washington University's Livingston. "You might send video of a remote area with people starving to death and it may never have happened," he says."

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See also 32 pages at Scribd on "Augmented Reality" by Rick Oller
http://www.scribd.com/doc/44664310/Augmented-Reality

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Augmented Reality: What? Who? Why?
by Andrew Davies in the UK at InPublishing in 2010
http://www.inpublishing.co.uk/kb/article...o_why.aspx

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JUNE/JULY 2003: AS WE SEE IT
Sport and War in a Television Culture

by Ethan Brue (Assistant Professor of Engineering at Dordt College, in Sioux Center, Iowa.)

The guts of it:

"I flip on the TV. Two things dominate the screen: the Iraq war and March Madness basketball. On one channel you see in the foreground a well-known ex-basketball player provide the viewer with the "keys to victory" as the producer skillfully mixes and fades statistical graphics superimposed on breathtaking slam-dunk replays slowed down to effectively dramatize the moment. The statistics carefully outline the inventory of weapons each team had in their arsenal . . . a relentless full-court game, an ability to sink free-throws under pressure, a dominant game in the paint, a strong bench, a point-guard with lethal accuracy from long range, or a power-forward who can pound the boards.
Just a couple channels over, there is a similar picture. In the foreground a highly decorated ex-Marine is busy providing the viewer with the "keys to victory" as the producer skillfully mixes and fades statistical graphics superimposed on breathtaking replays of smart bombs and stinger missile launches, slowed down to effectively dramatize the moment. The statistics carefully outline the pre-game inventory of each of the teams . . . the capability of achieving air superiority, the most ships, planes, or tanks, the edge in mobility, the strongest supply lines, or the strongest reserves.
I hit the flashback button on the remote. The screen changes from flashing blue and red fighter plane icons representing U.S. base locations, to flashing blue and red basketball icons representing typical shot selection on the playing field. It's all the same entertaining competition. The choice is up to the viewer; the game in the desert or the war on the court. We have successfully turned war into entertaining competition and our competitive sport into war. I find both transformations to be equally destructive."

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On virtual stadium advertising
http://www.imrpublications.com/newsdetails.aspx?nid=17

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POSSIBILITIES FOR AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENTS!

"The difference between VR and AR is that VR simulates the real-world, or other worlds, in a computer system and displays this on a computer screen, whereas AR combines the real-world with a VR simulation via graphical elements and projects these elements onto the real-world through computer displays or through stereoscopic displays."


http://www.formargroup.net/Research/virtual.html


Prattle concluded.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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#29
Ed, nobody here has contested the fact that things can be inserted into videos in near real-time. The issue is that the supposed evidence of that being done in the 9/11 videos doesn't hold water. Have you watched the videos I posted in my first reply to this thread?
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#30
Yes. One "position" or perspective does not necessarily rule out the other. I don't think the thesis is that no planes hit the Towers. The issue may be precisely what plane (or other airborne object made to look like a plane) hit the Towers. Is it possible that some of the people and companies involved in the background have, in their portfoiio, the ability to take a real airplane and make it look like another real airplane, said maskirovka then concealed in part by video hijinks? In short, is the plane(s) that hit the Towers (and we might extend this to other locales) actually the registered and documented aircraft that was supposed to have taken off that morning?
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