25-10-2010, 11:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2013, 12:21 PM by Anthony Thorne.)
Hey everyone, I posted sporadically over at the JFK Education Forum, but it's a pleasure to discover this new forum and the topics discussed here. This is my kind of site.
There's a book I've been reading recently on 9/11, and I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere on the forum here yet (I could be wrong) so I thought I'd start a discussion about it. I have a very positive impression of the book so far, but find it slightly surreal that there has been little discussion of it to date elsewhere online. I suspect that others here could offer some knowledgeable commentary on it, so I wanted to bring up the subject. I've raised the topic here rather than in the book forum as detailed discussion of the book (if anyone takes the bait) will be very 9/11 specific. I think there's a great deal to discuss with this one, so please bear with me.
There's an obscure writer by the name of E.P.Heidner who wrote a couple of articles on the 9/11 attacks back in 2007/2008 called 'Collateral Damage'. (If you Google around you can find Heidner's articles - the first is called '[FONT=&]Collateral Damage[/FONT]: U.S. Covert Operations and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001' and the second is '[FONT=&]Collateral Damage[/FONT] (Part 2) - The Subprime Crisis and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001'.) Anyway, reading a recent blog article by Deanna Spingola, I found reference in the footnotes to an 'unpublished' book on 9/11 by the same author - Heidner - that was reportedly quite detailed and illuminating on the subject. It took me a while to find it (I've got a shelf of around 20 9/11 books and have read hundreds of blogs and articles on the subject, but I don't believe I've heard of anyone discussing this book by Heidner until recently) but here it is.
THE SEPTEMBER 11 COMMISSION REPORT (a title that doesn't really do the book justice, I have to say) is an amazing piece of deep political research - kind of a cross between Ruppert's CROSSING THE RUBICON, Tarpley's SYNTHETIC TERROR, and Peter Dale Scott's books - which appears to be loaded with new material regarding the background to and development of the attacks, who planned it, how they did it, how it unfolded and why, all credibly ascertained from hundreds of different articles and sources. It answered to my satisfaction a good number of questions I've had for years about the events of the day, and ties into much I've read elsewhere on the subject, whilst simultaneously referencing a lot of new and important material. There's a lot of discussion on the criminal ties of the NeoCons to rogue elements within foreign intelligence agencies that I've never seen laid out in such detail anywhere else, and articles that I read years ago on obscure news sites have been dug back up and gleaned for info that all neatly fits into a long, detailed narrative. This isn't a simple replay of Griffin's NEW PEARL HARBOR or yet another recounting of, say, all the factual oddities surrounding building 7 (though a chapter does cover the building collapses, again with a lot of new info) - this is a whole new ballgame which brings a massive amount of new info to the table. New stuff on Atta, the deep background of the Office of Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon, who the people probably were behind Cheney, the importance of targeting the respective agencies in WTC7, new links between the hijackers and the probable conspirators - an absolutely massive amount of new stuff, and all, to me, quite convincing. You'll have to read it to see what I mean, but there's no denying that Heidner seems to have done his homework. David Guyatt's work is referenced, a section on the assassination of Reagan makes use of comments by John Judge, the 'Far West' company referenced by Peter Dale Scott in an article by him on 9/11 is covered in depth, and links between the Iran-Contra conspirators and the likely culprits surrounding 9/11 are examined in great detail. In essence, the book makes an extremely detailed case for the deliberate targeting of WTC 7, various financial entities located within the twin towers, and the Office of Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon, and then elaborates as to how various parties with prior knowledge aided and exploited the attacks for their own gain. The amount of detail is almost overpowering at times, but largely holds true for me as I read it. In its breadth of research and careful analysis I think this is the most important book to appear within the 9/11 truth movement in a long time.
Also of interest is the fact that the book is currently available to read for free. It's available as a PDF of 381 pages at the following Scribd link (Scribd seem to want a $5 download fee or something unless you upload a document in return, so I've provided a mirror link beneath).
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17233336/S...-December-2008
That Scribd link works fine (and offers a brief preview of early pages) but if anyone prefers a quicker method I've re-upped the PDF at this link where anyone can download it for free at a moment's notice.
[2012 update to this post - the Megaupload link I included here onetime has gone kaput with the demise of that service, but the Scribd link above still works fine and offers the complete download].
I printed a copy of it at a local print shop recently and have been reading it over the last couple of weeks with my jaw on the floor. If any of the regulars are curious, please download the PDF (or follow the Scribd link) and have a look. This is a better, more detailed book on 9/11 than some of the ones I've bought from Amazon for $20 or more, and it's already adjusted my perspective slightly on who was involved and how everything played out. All the same figures and nationalities are there, but there are some new, lesser known characters that this book brings into bold relief for (to my eyes) the first time, and some old topics are gone into here with a lot of fresh detail and an aggressive effort to join the dots in an eye-opening manner. A knockout book. The author should really give it a better title, but this is an amazing read. I'm open to sections being 'debunked' or criticized or questioned by any of the posters on this board, but I'd love to hear some commentary on the book as a whole once people read it or browse through it, as there's very little discussion elsewhere about this book online, and in a funny way I'm still struggling to decide what I actually make of the whole thing.
There's a book I've been reading recently on 9/11, and I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere on the forum here yet (I could be wrong) so I thought I'd start a discussion about it. I have a very positive impression of the book so far, but find it slightly surreal that there has been little discussion of it to date elsewhere online. I suspect that others here could offer some knowledgeable commentary on it, so I wanted to bring up the subject. I've raised the topic here rather than in the book forum as detailed discussion of the book (if anyone takes the bait) will be very 9/11 specific. I think there's a great deal to discuss with this one, so please bear with me.
There's an obscure writer by the name of E.P.Heidner who wrote a couple of articles on the 9/11 attacks back in 2007/2008 called 'Collateral Damage'. (If you Google around you can find Heidner's articles - the first is called '[FONT=&]Collateral Damage[/FONT]: U.S. Covert Operations and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001' and the second is '[FONT=&]Collateral Damage[/FONT] (Part 2) - The Subprime Crisis and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001'.) Anyway, reading a recent blog article by Deanna Spingola, I found reference in the footnotes to an 'unpublished' book on 9/11 by the same author - Heidner - that was reportedly quite detailed and illuminating on the subject. It took me a while to find it (I've got a shelf of around 20 9/11 books and have read hundreds of blogs and articles on the subject, but I don't believe I've heard of anyone discussing this book by Heidner until recently) but here it is.
THE SEPTEMBER 11 COMMISSION REPORT (a title that doesn't really do the book justice, I have to say) is an amazing piece of deep political research - kind of a cross between Ruppert's CROSSING THE RUBICON, Tarpley's SYNTHETIC TERROR, and Peter Dale Scott's books - which appears to be loaded with new material regarding the background to and development of the attacks, who planned it, how they did it, how it unfolded and why, all credibly ascertained from hundreds of different articles and sources. It answered to my satisfaction a good number of questions I've had for years about the events of the day, and ties into much I've read elsewhere on the subject, whilst simultaneously referencing a lot of new and important material. There's a lot of discussion on the criminal ties of the NeoCons to rogue elements within foreign intelligence agencies that I've never seen laid out in such detail anywhere else, and articles that I read years ago on obscure news sites have been dug back up and gleaned for info that all neatly fits into a long, detailed narrative. This isn't a simple replay of Griffin's NEW PEARL HARBOR or yet another recounting of, say, all the factual oddities surrounding building 7 (though a chapter does cover the building collapses, again with a lot of new info) - this is a whole new ballgame which brings a massive amount of new info to the table. New stuff on Atta, the deep background of the Office of Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon, who the people probably were behind Cheney, the importance of targeting the respective agencies in WTC7, new links between the hijackers and the probable conspirators - an absolutely massive amount of new stuff, and all, to me, quite convincing. You'll have to read it to see what I mean, but there's no denying that Heidner seems to have done his homework. David Guyatt's work is referenced, a section on the assassination of Reagan makes use of comments by John Judge, the 'Far West' company referenced by Peter Dale Scott in an article by him on 9/11 is covered in depth, and links between the Iran-Contra conspirators and the likely culprits surrounding 9/11 are examined in great detail. In essence, the book makes an extremely detailed case for the deliberate targeting of WTC 7, various financial entities located within the twin towers, and the Office of Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon, and then elaborates as to how various parties with prior knowledge aided and exploited the attacks for their own gain. The amount of detail is almost overpowering at times, but largely holds true for me as I read it. In its breadth of research and careful analysis I think this is the most important book to appear within the 9/11 truth movement in a long time.
Also of interest is the fact that the book is currently available to read for free. It's available as a PDF of 381 pages at the following Scribd link (Scribd seem to want a $5 download fee or something unless you upload a document in return, so I've provided a mirror link beneath).
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17233336/S...-December-2008
That Scribd link works fine (and offers a brief preview of early pages) but if anyone prefers a quicker method I've re-upped the PDF at this link where anyone can download it for free at a moment's notice.
[2012 update to this post - the Megaupload link I included here onetime has gone kaput with the demise of that service, but the Scribd link above still works fine and offers the complete download].
I printed a copy of it at a local print shop recently and have been reading it over the last couple of weeks with my jaw on the floor. If any of the regulars are curious, please download the PDF (or follow the Scribd link) and have a look. This is a better, more detailed book on 9/11 than some of the ones I've bought from Amazon for $20 or more, and it's already adjusted my perspective slightly on who was involved and how everything played out. All the same figures and nationalities are there, but there are some new, lesser known characters that this book brings into bold relief for (to my eyes) the first time, and some old topics are gone into here with a lot of fresh detail and an aggressive effort to join the dots in an eye-opening manner. A knockout book. The author should really give it a better title, but this is an amazing read. I'm open to sections being 'debunked' or criticized or questioned by any of the posters on this board, but I'd love to hear some commentary on the book as a whole once people read it or browse through it, as there's very little discussion elsewhere about this book online, and in a funny way I'm still struggling to decide what I actually make of the whole thing.