The Danger Of The Fetzer Assassination School

[Ralph Cinque]

So, no takers. I guess that's my cue. Someone please remove me from the system and stop the notifications. I'm out of here. Enjoy your forum. Ralph Cinque

[Dawn Meredith]

Mr. Vazakas,

Just a few weeks ago, at the time of the 49th anniversary in late November, a new rehashing of the official story came out called The Lost Bullet. It was directed by Max Holland. A very elaborate affair, I'm sure it cost millions of dollars to produce.


And right now, they are working on a 10 part television mini-series about the assassination based on Bugliosi's book, Reclaiming History. It is being produced by Tom Hanks. He paid Bugliosi millions of dollars for the rights. It's going to be released for the 50th anniversary in November 2013.


So, even though a 5 year old can tell that Oswald was innocent- I agree with you about that- the fact remains that they, the Establishment, continue to push the official story. What's at stake is the credibility of the US government and the corporate media.


So, it is necessary to keep fighting the good fight. We have to stand up to them. And this issue of Doorman wearing Oswald's shirt is very important. There are no pat answers to it- at least not rational ones. And it is something people can see with their own two eyes. It's fresh. It's new. What more can be said about the magic bullet? Seinfeld was even making jokes about it with the "magic loogie." So, I wish that people would look at it and realize that it is a breakthrough. And I'm sure the other side is aware of it and not happy. This is bad news for them. Grave news.

I agree with CD. You come on here and insult members, then just repeat your same old tired remarks over and over and over....I have only made it to page three of this thread and already I can't bear to read it. You made your point three dozens of posts ago. Now you are just insulting memebers here, including one of the Co-founders and co-owners.
If you have something more to add on this case by all means please do so but continuing to argue a myth is making you look like your reasons to be here are not legitimate.

That's my take,
Dawn

[Ralph Cinque]

In that case, Dawn, you have a need to address Mr. Doyle as well as me because he embraces the "myth" as much as I do. He accepts fully that Oswald was framed and that the crime involved the CIA, the FBI, and other "higher elements." That's what he said. Did you know that? Have you spoken to him?

And apparently, Mr. Vazakas agrees too that the official story is nonsense. He referred to it as "cognitive dissonance."

And, I recall that some of the other responses from other members also demonstrated rejection of the official story.

So, without wishing to insult you, I will point out that you have a different perspective on the assassination than some of the other members here, including the primary one with whom I been arguing, and who drew me into this forum by trashing me here: Mr. Doyle.

And again, without wishing to insult you, I too have questions about the "legitamacy" of what is going on. Ralph Cinque

[Charles Drago]

So, no takers. I guess that's my cue. Someone please remove me from the system and stop the notifications. I'm out of here. Enjoy your forum. Ralph Cinque

I haven't been teased so viciously since Linda Lunardi ate spilled popcorn off my lap at a seventh grade field trip to the movies.

Linda is lost in time. Kitchen Cinque remains.

The cosmos is indifferent to my suffering.

[Dawn Meredith]

In that case, Dawn, you have a need to address Mr. Doyle as well as me because he embraces the "myth" as much as I do. He accepts fully that Oswald was framed and that the crime involved the CIA, the FBI, and other "higher elements." That's what he said. Did you know that? Have you spoken to him?

And apparently, Mr. Vazakas agrees too that the official story is nonsense. He referred to it as "cognitive dissonance."

And, I recall that some of the other responses from other members also demonstrated rejection of the official story.

So, without wishing to insult you, I will point out that you have a different perspective on the assassination than some of the other members here, including the primary one with whom I been arguing, and who drew me into this forum by trashing me here: Mr. Doyle.

And again, without wishing to insult you, I too have questions about the "legitamacy" of what is going on. Ralph Cinque

Oh good God...I meant your photo myth. Of course LHO was framed. I knew that day one at age 14. Your pretense of misunderstanding my post is laughable and I will not respond further.

Dawn

[Ralph Cinque]

Dawn, that was no pretense. Read through what you wrote. I thought you were referring to the conspiracy as a "myth."


As to the Altgens photo, the Doorman is wearing Oswald's shirt, and that is not a myth. The points I make about the matching collars have not been made before, to my knowledge. Leastways, they are not part of any established myth. It takes time for a myth to evolve. Words have precise meanings, Dawn, and this is no myth.

[Ralph Cinque]

Mr. Drago, Yours and the others unwillingness to look at a simple picture and express whether or not you think an anomaly is present evinces extreme bias against me and a total lack of objectivity. Ralph Cinque

[Vasilios Vazakas]

Mr. Cinque

I was very polite up to now, but i think i should change attitute. First you are not in a position to insult Dawn.
Her understanding of the case is miles ahead of yours. Second, do not try to make it sound that you and me are in agreement. We are not and our differences are profound. Regarding the cognitive dissonnance, i said that you propagate it. wittingly or unwittingly you have become a part of the problem. I would like to think that you do not have a secret agenda and it is just ignorance. However it is impossible for those who wish to disrupt this forum to achieve it.
And since you do not get it, i'll repeat Salandria's words for the third time:

I'm afraid we were misled. All the critics, myself included, were misled very early. I see that now. We spent too much time and effort microanalyzing the details of the assassination when all the time it was obvious, it was blatantly obvious that it was a conspiracy. Don't you think that the men who killed Kennedy had the means to do it in the most sophisticated and subtle way? They chose not to. Instead, they picked the shooting gallery that was Dealey Plaza and did it in the most barbarous and openly arrogant manner. The cover story was transparent and designed not to hold, to fall apart at the slightest scrutiny. The forces that killed Kennedy wanted the message clear: 'We are in control and no one - not the President, nor Congress, nor any elected official - no one can do anything about it.' It was a message to the people that their Government was powerless. And the people eventually got the message. Consider what has happened since the Kennedy assassination. People see government today as unresponsive to their needs, yet the budget and power of the military and intelligence establishment have increased tremendously.
The tyranny of power is here. Current events tell us that those who killed Kennedy can only perpetuate their power by promoting social upheaval both at home and abroad. And that will lead not to revolution but to repression. I suggest to you, my friend, that the interests of those who killed Kennedy now transcend national boundaries and national priorities. No doubt we are dealing now with an international conspiracy. We must face that fact - and not waste any more time microanalyzing the evidence. That's exactly what they want us to do. They have kept us busy for so long. And I will bet, buddy, that is what will happen to you. They'll keep you very, very busy and, eventually, they'll wear you down.

[Ralph Cinque]

No, Mr. Vazakas, you spoke of "their continuous effort to induce cognitive dissonance." If you were talking about me, you would have said, "your continuous effort to induce cognitive dissonance." Get it?


And me insult Dawn? What about Dawn insulting me? I never said anything to her. She just came on and started belittling me.

This whole thing started because Mr. Doyle initiated this thread for the explicit purpose of denigrating me and my videos. So, I came on to defend myself. I wasn't picking on him. HE WAS PICKING ON ME! He's the one who started it.

And ever since then all of you have been joining in and taking his side. What kind of fraternity is this? This feels like a weird episode of the Twilight Zone.

Look, this isn't a schoolyard showdown. We're supposed to be discussing points of fact about the JFK assassination. I have asked you to look at a picture to consider a particular anomaly. Your refusal to do it tells me that you are not at all interested in points of fact. You're only interested in winning this bizarre pissing contest.

Well, I want to know if there is one person amongst you who has the moxie to look at this picture and render an opinion as to what that white blotch is over the right armpit of the man whose hands are raised:
http://www.jfk-fr.com/images/jfk/5.jpg

[Kevin Hall]

Mr. Cinque,

would you just leave already as promised? Or was that a lie?