"Seven Days in May" - the movie - Is being shown on the Turner Classic Movies (TCM-TV) in one hour

[Charles Drago]

For an in-depth discussion of The Package, see my thread at:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...lm-to-Date

[Jim DiEugenio]

I have not seen The Package yet.

But I will make a point to do so soon. Nowadays you can actually see older films online for free at Amazon. For instance, I wanted to see Carnage and I found out you can see Polanski's classic KNife in the Water for free at Amazon.

My favorite, sans the Package, in this genre is The Parallax View. Although that is modeled on the RFK case not JFK.

[Don Quiquong]

I've just watched The Package (and subsequently read the related thread), I have to thank everyone for the recommendation, it does an excellent job of (hopefully) building the conceptual headspace for an audience to approach the original events with an open mind. It always seems that to some extent, the power of a fictionalized scenario is to relay the internal logic of the situation whilst bypassing the mental blocks often present, or at least that's my take home. After reading the ISGP docs (I originally found this forum, trying to find a back up of them), I remember trying to find a way to frame the content so that people would listen to me, or at least hear me out, with little success beyond those who had already been aware of the case through Belgian media.

Side note, glad to hear that Knife in the Water is available to watch online, I remember spending a fair whack trying to get hold of it on DVD. Didn't rate Carnage so highly, but it reminds me that The Ghostwriter (I think it was released as The Ghost in some territories) also touched on some similar themes.

Namaste

[Jan Klimkowski]

There's a dedicated DPF thread on The Ghost or Ghostwriter.

My judgement on the film and the book is clearly expressed there.

In short, the Harris and Polanksi offerings are not works of deep political insight.

They are cheap, populist, cop outs.

[Don Quiquong]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it was insightful, just thematically similar. But, looking through the linked thread, I think Atzmon (and yourself, more directly) are both spot on, and it was poor form of me to mention it in this thread of otherwise excellent films.

Reminds me a bit of that video of Andrew Marr interviewing (or rather failing to interview) Chomsky, the kind of limits of acceptable thought in MSM - if I recall wasn't Gilad's book pulled from sale by various retailers? Even mentioning Plan Dalet seems to be enough to get left in the cold, let alone discussing anything more contemporary (i.e from the televised coverage of the Werritty/Fox thing you'd be hard-pushed to even guess what was implied about Britain's foreign policy).

Namaste

[Phil Dragoo]

We got The Package on Charles' recommendation and it clearly shows the mutual benefit to the refined predators at the top of the lookinglass milint gangs.

Executive Action pretty well sums up the Prouty hypothesis. Mark Lane a very talented human being.

Redford isn't believable; the book had twice as many days and was more coldly objective.

The Day of the Jackal is a masterpiece in book and film. The cold ruthlessness of the cipher paid for the contract, his chameleon anonymity.

Blow-Up (1966) offers a brush with hidden murder which has a self-concealing power operating invisibly.

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Oliver Stone's JFK was handicapped by Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison. Exhuming Robert Mitchum would've been closer.

Jim DiEugenio has written of the unspeakable attack on Garrison. Charles could write a screenplay. Reach out for Robert Mitchum.

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[Charles Drago]

We got The Package on Charles' recommendation and it clearly shows the mutual benefit to the refined predators at the top of the lookinglass milint gangs.

Executive Action pretty well sums up the Prouty hypothesis. Mark Lane a very talented human being.

Redford isn't believable; the book had twice as many days and was more coldly objective.

The Day of the Jackal is a masterpiece in book and film. The cold ruthlessness of the cipher paid for the contract, his chameleon anonymity.

Blow-Up (1966) offers a brush with hidden murder which has a self-concealing power operating invisibly.

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Oliver Stone's JFK was handicapped by Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison. Exhuming Robert Mitchum would've been closer.

Jim DiEugenio has written of the unspeakable attack on Garrison. Charles could write a screenplay. Reach out for Robert Mitchum.

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FWIW:

1. The long-standing rumor among New York literary types is that The Day of the Jackal was written by Frederick Forsyth's editor (either at Hutchinson in the UK or Viking Press in the US).

2. A copy of the Hebrew translation of the novel was found among the possessions of Yigal Amir, who may have assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.

3. As a very young buck I actually met Mitchum during the filming of the classic The Friends of Eddie Coyle. Somehow I had secured one ticket to a Boston Bruins hockey game. It was at the height of the Bobby Orr era, and the opponent that night in the long-gone Boston Garden was the hated Chicago Blackhawks. I had what was termed an "obstructed view" seat -- directly behind a pillar supporting the arena's roof -- in the last row. As it happened, Mitchum and Peter Boyle were about four seats away, where they were getting ready to shoot one of the movie's pivotal scenes. I screwed up my courage, walked over, and shook his hand. He asked me if I knew the George V. Higgins novel (I later learned that Mitchum was celebrated for being well-read), and we talked for what seemed like five minutes or so about Higgins's masterful use of dialogue. He was natural, accessible, and very kind to a young fan. I'll never forget my brush with the legend known as Robert Mitchum. Great casting choice, Phil.

4. The Package is most important for its depiction of assassination conspirators described by George Michael Evica (within the context of JFK's murder) as civilian and military intelligence officers and assets "whose masters were above Cold War differences."

[Jim Hackett II]

Yep.
He could carry the Louisiana Narlins point of view much better than Costner did.
Can't imagine a better choice.

Blow Up. Also Yes.

How about "Suddenly" with Frank as a "Nut" just not quite a lone one.
A psychotic vet. How exploitative.
Mad Jack Ripper - Sterling Hayden as the white hat Capt. Fritz?

It seems we are a film watching bunch of people.
Thanks Adele for bringing this up.

[Jan Klimkowski]

1. The long-standing rumor among New York literary types is that The Day of the Jackal was written by Frederick Forsyth's editor (either at Hutchinson in the UK or Viking Press in the US.

Name?

[Charles Drago]

1. The long-standing rumor among New York literary types is that The Day of the Jackal was written by Frederick Forsyth's editor (either at Hutchinson in the UK or Viking Press in the US).

Name?

I wish I had one for you, but I don't.

I first heard the rumor in the mid-90s, from Sam Hughes, my literary agent at that time. Sam (a woman) is now deceased.