Vincent Bugliosi pre Reclaiming History

[Keith Millea]

Inside The LC: [B]The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Part I[/B][/FONT]

Exactly Cliff,what a crock,but then I'm always reminded by McGowans title...

"The Mostly True Story of"......

[Jim DiEugenio]

I have the Schreck book on order.

It looks like a massive undertaking. About 900 pages.

But the Sanders book has some of what he is talking about in undeveloped form.

BTW, Schreck is a Buddhist today.

[David Guyatt]

David

Author Gerard Williams: "I think that this deal was done with Allen Welsh Dulles and his brother. . . ."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijdVGQlqcCI

Thank you Phil. Much appreciated. The Dulles pair were really a pair weren't they.

[Phil Dragoo]

David

Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler has been ordered.

The author says Hitler lived until the age of 73, dying in Argentina February 13, 1962.

Polanski wrote the screenplay for Ira Levin's 1967 novel Rosemary's Baby, directed it in 1968, only to have his wife involved in an actual event more terrifying, an actual rather than virtual ordeal.

Ira Levin in 1976 wrote Boys from Brazil, a modest proposal.

No stranger to strange tales, Allen Dulles is seen at the origin of the body of UFO mythology, all the Roswell and MJ-12 pastel smoke, in the research of Seamus Coogan.

It appears that the Dulles cabal in the CIA created a powerful myth with UFOs that they have since used as a diversion both internally and externally for myriad purposes, not just the obfuscation of secret weapons and aircraft, but have nurtured a powerful social phenomenon.

http://www.ctka.net/2011/MJ 12 intro_Alien Dulles.html

The author of this extensive study clarifies that though Dulles and the CIA have figured in both UFO mythology and the JFK assassination, the two are disparate lines not to be conjoined.

I would posit that Dulles and for that matter Hunt, Phillips and the entrie psychological warfare cadre within our range of inquiry uses legends to mask, to distract, to deflect, and moreover to shape the public imagination.

Ira Levin introduces a stylistic assault on common concepts of sanctity in 1967.

Polanski screens the images to rooms full of gasping bystanders.

Manson Ltd. breaks on through to the crime scene and senational headlines.

Bugliosi surfs the wave in the manner of a Specter with a pointer.

The next year Fellini makes it all a yawner.

Thus is the general populace accustomed to outrageous gore.

A footnote: Bernadette Dohrn found that they sat down to dinner in the same room and stuck a fork in "the pig's stomach":

Bombs for hubby, a POTUS their hobby

Now they cut their ennui with World War III

That little Kennedy. . . .

[Dawn Meredith]

See: Naval Intelligence, MKUltra and the Hippie Movement

It's highly entertaining Conspiracy Porn based primarily on guilt by association.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world in those early months of 1965, a new scene' is just beginning to take shape in the city of Los Angeles. In a geographically and socially isolated community known as Laurel Canyon a heavily wooded, rustic, serene, yet vaguely ominous slice of LA nestled in the hills that separate the Los Angeles basin from the San Fernando Valley musicians, singers and songwriters suddenly begin to gather as though summoned there by some unseen Pied Piper. Within months, the hippie/flower child' movement will be given birth there, along with the new style of music that will provide the soundtrack for the tumultuous second half of the 1960s.

An uncanny number of rock music superstars will emerge from Laurel Canyon beginning in the mid-1960s and carrying through the decade of the 1970s. The first to drop an album will be The Byrds, whose biggest star will prove to be David Crosby. The band's debut effort, "Mr. Tambourine Man," will be released on the Summer Solstice of 1965. It will quickly be followed by releases from the John Phillips-led Mamas and the Papas ("If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears," January 1966), Love with Arthur Lee ("Love," May 1966), Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention ("Freak Out," June 1966), Buffalo Springfield, featuring Stephen Stills and Neil Young ("Buffalo Springfield," October 1966), and The Doors ("The Doors," January 1967).

What a crock!

The Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, and Big Brother & the Holding Company all formed in 1965 in the San Francisco bay area.

If we are going to give credit for the creation of the hippie movement I'd argue it was Bill Graham and his concert promotions -- in conjunction with LSD.

In the 60's LSD was a popular dance party drug. Guess what folks?? -- in 2013 LSD is a popular dance party drug!!

LSD never went away -- only the hype went away...Except when students of "Deep Events" (bless us) over-think it...

Cliff: Maybe you should re-read all of the above links. I was happily a distant part of all that magic that in Nova Scotia. The love scene, the LSD scene and especially loved all of those bands. "Love" remains one of my alltime favorite groups.
("I could be in love with almost everyone!!")
That said the evidence of MK Ultra, and Naval intel mixing in with all the peace love and understanding is overwhelming. Indulge in a bit of "over-thinking".
Ya, LSD is still around. So? Bill Graham. Yes. He played an important part. But more than one thing was occurring. The Unspeakable was in attendance.

Dawn

[Cliff Varnell]

Hi Dawn,

See: Naval Intelligence, MKUltra and the Hippie Movement

It's highly entertaining Conspiracy Porn based primarily on guilt by association.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world in those early months of 1965, a new scene' is just beginning to take shape in the city of Los Angeles. In a geographically and socially isolated community known as Laurel Canyon a heavily wooded, rustic, serene, yet vaguely ominous slice of LA nestled in the hills that separate the Los Angeles basin from the San Fernando Valley musicians, singers and songwriters suddenly begin to gather as though summoned there by some unseen Pied Piper. Within months, the hippie/flower child' movement will be given birth there, along with the new style of music that will provide the soundtrack for the tumultuous second half of the 1960s.

An uncanny number of rock music superstars will emerge from Laurel Canyon beginning in the mid-1960s and carrying through the decade of the 1970s. The first to drop an album will be The Byrds, whose biggest star will prove to be David Crosby. The band's debut effort, "Mr. Tambourine Man," will be released on the Summer Solstice of 1965. It will quickly be followed by releases from the John Phillips-led Mamas and the Papas ("If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears," January 1966), Love with Arthur Lee ("Love," May 1966), Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention ("Freak Out," June 1966), Buffalo Springfield, featuring Stephen Stills and Neil Young ("Buffalo Springfield," October 1966), and The Doors ("The Doors," January 1967).

What a crock!

The Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, and Big Brother & the Holding Company all formed in 1965 in the San Francisco bay area.

If we are going to give credit for the creation of the hippie movement I'd argue it was Bill Graham and his concert promotions -- in conjunction with LSD.

In the 60's LSD was a popular dance party drug. Guess what folks?? -- in 2013 LSD is a popular dance party drug!!

LSD never went away -- only the hype went away...Except when students of "Deep Events" (bless us) over-think it...

Cliff: Maybe you should re-read all of the above links. I was happily a distant part of all that magic that in Nova Scotia. The love scene, the LSD scene and especially loved all of those bands. "Love" remains one of my alltime favorite groups.
("I could be in love with almost everyone!!")
That said the evidence of MK Ultra, and Naval intel mixing in with all the peace love and understanding is overwhelming.

Absolutely! That's where the shit came from. It was one of the most interesting social experiments emanating from within the US government -- the initial distribution of massive quantities of LSD. But that doesn't mean that the eventual impact on pop culture was something they anticipated, desired or controlled.

That's my argument.

Once the LSD genie was out of the bottle it became the staple of youth culture that persists to this day. The driving force behind the popularity of LSD is music now in 2013 just as it was in the mid-60's.

Once the USG introduced LSD into the American pop culture the music took over, which was not a consequence I'd think Langley would have foreseen.

Indulge in a bit of "over-thinking".
Ya, LSD is still around. So?

Was that the original sinister plan? The goal of MK/ULTRA-ONI acid distribution was to establish a staple for twenty-somethings to get their grooves on well into the 21st Century?

Bill Graham. Yes. He played an important part. But more than one thing was occurring. The Unspeakable was in attendance.

In the form of Frank Zappa and Jim Morrison? No, I don't buy it, Dawn. And if the author can't get the music history right why should we buy his conclusions?

[Cliff Varnell]

Once the USG introduced LSD into the American pop culture the music took over

It's popularity didn't blow up initially in Laurel Canyon, either.

It blew up in the Haight and at the Fillmore and other music venues in San Francisco.

Did Princeton Dickie Helms anticipate Pigpen (original Grateful Dead keyboardist and the balls in the band)?

I don't think so!:darthvader:

Laurel Canyon...gimme a fucking break...:happyweed:



Cliff Varnell
Haight-Ashbury
long-time resident

[Cliff Varnell]

The Unspeakable was in attendance.

Yes! They were making money selling drugs. Just as they've always done.

But LSD wasn't the drug of choice for numbing out a generation, as some have claimed. No, the Unspeakable pushed heroin for that.

[David Healy]

Once the USG introduced LSD into the American pop culture the music took over

It's popularity didn't blow up initially in Laurel Canyon, either.

It blew up in the Haight and at the Fillmore and other music venues in San Francisco.

Did Princeton Dickie Helms anticipate Pigpen (original Grateful Dead keyboardist and the balls in the band)?

I don't think so!:darthvader:

Laurel Canyon...gimme a fucking break...:happyweed:



Cliff Varnell
Haight-Ashbury
long-time resident

bring back Winterland... <sigh>

[David Guyatt]

David

Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler has been ordered.

The author says Hitler lived until the age of 73, dying in Argentina February 13, 1962.

Polanski wrote the screenplay for Ira Levin's 1967 novel Rosemary's Baby, directed it in 1968, only to have his wife involved in an actual event more terrifying, an actual rather than virtual ordeal.

Ira Levin in 1976 wrote Boys from Brazil, a modest proposal.

No stranger to strange tales, Allen Dulles is seen at the origin of the body of UFO mythology, all the Roswell and MJ-12 pastel smoke, in the research of Seamus Coogan.

It appears that the Dulles cabal in the CIA created a powerful myth with UFOs that they have since used as a diversion both internally and externally for myriad purposes, not just the obfuscation of secret weapons and aircraft, but have nurtured a powerful social phenomenon.

http://www.ctka.net/2011/MJ 12 intro_Alien Dulles.html

The author of this extensive study clarifies that though Dulles and the CIA have figured in both UFO mythology and the JFK assassination, the two are disparate lines not to be conjoined.

I would posit that Dulles and for that matter Hunt, Phillips and the entrie psychological warfare cadre within our range of inquiry uses legends to mask, to distract, to deflect, and moreover to shape the public imagination.

Ira Levin introduces a stylistic assault on common concepts of sanctity in 1967.

Polanski screens the images to rooms full of gasping bystanders.

Manson Ltd. breaks on through to the crime scene and senational headlines.

Bugliosi surfs the wave in the manner of a Specter with a pointer.

The next year Fellini makes it all a yawner.

Thus is the general populace accustomed to outrageous gore.

A footnote: Bernadette Dohrn found that they sat down to dinner in the same room and stuck a fork in "the pig's stomach":

Bombs for hubby, a POTUS their hobby

Now they cut their ennui with World War III

That little Kennedy. . . .

Marvellous stuff Phil. I'm certain Coogan was correct about the UFO fabrication. It's not just a cover for advanced aircraft development but also the creation of a powerful - even archetypal - myth of the Grey Aliens (Crowley's "Master Lam" being the prototype). Nazis abound.

PS, Picknett & Prince's Stargate Conspiracy is also worth a mention in this regard.