Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio

[Phil Dragoo]

I recommend Target: Patton in which Robert Wilcox presents a case for a combined operation such as The Package, 1989, Gene Hackman, Tommy Lee Jones.

Patton was returning to California to run for U.S. Senate and the White House.

He would not be a competitor of Eisenhower.

A similar fate occurred to General Lebed in 2003 with his demise in a helicopter crash, eliminating Putin's biggest challenge.

[Jim Hackett II]

A demonstration of the value of DPF to people like me.

Not only would my work be short in quality of the above, the data and the work is already presented here.

Saved time and often the materials dovetail with another piece of the machinations of the Enemy.
Happy to be here. Hoping to be attentive.

[Magda Hassan]

John Judge, I know, had more to say about Kraemer - they are somewhere on mp3 files, likely not in transcript form...will keep looking.

I recommend Target: Patton in which Robert Wilcox presents a case for a combined operation such as The Package, 1989, Gene Hackman, Tommy Lee Jones.

Patton was returning to California to run for U.S. Senate and the White House.

He would not be a competitor of Eisenhower.

A similar fate occurred to General Lebed in 2003 with his demise in a helicopter crash, eliminating Putin's biggest challenge.

Many thanks for the links Peter and Phil!

Just as an aside I found it interesting to see Errol Flynn's name there as being signed up for the Nazis. As well as working with Ronald Reagan he also lived with and was close friend of David Niven who was quite high ranking in the Commandos on the British side. Flynn was also on the ground in Cuba just after the Revolution and was the first to interview Castro on film. There was an Australian documentary made of it a few years ago. Errol being an Australian and all that. Well, Tasmanian anyway. I may have posted it here if I recall.

[Peter Lemkin]

John Judge, I know, had more to say about Kraemer - they are somewhere on mp3 files, likely not in transcript form...will keep looking.

I recommend Target: Patton in which Robert Wilcox presents a case for a combined operation such as The Package, 1989, Gene Hackman, Tommy Lee Jones.

Patton was returning to California to run for U.S. Senate and the White House.

He would not be a competitor of Eisenhower.

A similar fate occurred to General Lebed in 2003 with his demise in a helicopter crash, eliminating Putin's biggest challenge.

Many thanks for the links Peter and Phil!

Just as an aside I found it interesting to see Errol Flynn's name there as being signed up for the Nazis. As well as working with Ronald Reagan he also lived with and was close friend of David Niven who was quite high ranking in the Commandos on the British side. Flynn was also on the ground in Cuba just after the Revolution and was the first to interview Castro on film. There was an Australian documentary made of it a few years ago. Errol being an Australian and all that. Well, Tasmanian anyway. I may have posted it here if I recall.

Mae Brussell also had more to say on F. K. than is now on this thread. It is not easy searching to find the stuff, at times. Yes, Flynn was a well-known Nazi and Reagan too [remember Bitberg?!]. Just after Castro took over, the American's and CIA actually liked him and thought they could control him - that didn't last long, as most know. I posted just a few days ago about Patton, and now can't find it. The book Phil suggested, I had also. It was, IMO, not to stop Patton from competing with Eisenhower that got him killed [in the hospital after a rather minor injury from a planned car crash], but rather the fear that his famous big and loud mouth [and honesty] would disclose how much of the Nazi treasure and secret weapons, scientists, etc. were moved over to the American side of the 'ledger' without public knowledge. Remember, he made a rapid dash south toward Prague and wanted to take Prague, but was told to just sit on his hands, as there had been a deal for the Soviets to take Prague. Along the way he found many Nazi stashes of money, gold, paintings and art, secret weapons systems, etc. As he waited outside Pilsen [just SW of Prague] with his troops, nearly going mad at being told NOT to take Prague [which he said he could take in a day or two], he sent expeditionary forces into and past Prague to make deals with various Nazi Generals about certain things. He knew too much for those in power to have him live, even though he was as famous and as honored as Eisenhower - perhaps more.

[Jim Hackett II]

I just had a "boot" drive crash a few days ago....

Now the archive drive is the boot drive, loosing the archive in fresh format/install op sys.

I saved research data from removable disc archives, but lost some for lack of diligence in back ups.
All restored now that can be.

This drive crashing was a normal lifetime thing. To be expected after a few years.
No Enemy action or "hacking" involved.

DPF holds lots of great data. Making up for my lack of diligence in incomplete backups.
I can restore most of the lost data from right here....

Thanks and Excuse the OT walk thru the garden path.
Jim
P.S. I think I'll build a new PC over the winter. Again every 3 or so years.

[Phil Dragoo]

Wilcox says Patton mentioned the Pilsen factories several times in his diaries and found nothing of note.

The gold was only one aspect of his knowledge of the prosecution of the war, the blunders and pandering which left 20,000 American and 20,000 British in the hands of Stalin whose enslavement of Eastern Europe was allowed by Roosevelt, Truman et al.

Eisenhower was down with all of it, and would in the aftermath of the JFK assassination remark that U.S. assassins and would-be assassins were disgruntled.

Patton would've had too much leverage on the Gladiators.

He was the only person injured when a deuce and a half T-boned his Cadillac en route to a hunt. He thereupon showed good recovery until his sudden death in his wife's rare absence from his bedside.

His public threats against the Soviet Union and Stalin were enough to unite U.S. and Soviet intelligence against him.

How could there have been a 45-year Cold War with an anticommunist general headed for a position of political power intending to defeat the enemy.

[Peter Lemkin]

Wilcox says Patton mentioned the Pilsen factories several times in his diaries and found nothing of note.

The gold was only one aspect of his knowledge of the prosecution of the war, the blunders and pandering which left 20,000 American and 20,000 British in the hands of Stalin whose enslavement of Eastern Europe was allowed by Roosevelt, Truman et al.

Eisenhower was down with all of it, and would in the aftermath of the JFK assassination remark that U.S. assassins and would-be assassins were disgruntled.

Patton would've had too much leverage on the Gladiators.

He was the only person injured when a deuce and a half T-boned his Cadillac en route to a hunt. He thereupon showed good recovery until his sudden death in his wife's rare absence from his bedside.

His public threats against the Soviet Union and Stalin were enough to unite U.S. and Soviet intelligence against him.

How could there have been a 45-year Cold War with an anticommunist general headed for a position of political power intending to defeat the enemy.

I'd not argue against any of the above, Phil. Patton, besides his troops, had G2, T2, and OSS and other such teams [large ones] traveling with his troops. Yes, the large munitions, canon and tank factory in Pilsen was a target; however, my research shows [this is yet unpublished] that the highly secret and smaller projects run by that enterprise were NOT in Pilsen, but in Pribram and a few other nearby towns - hidden underground in old mines or innocuous factory buildings - or both. I'm not sure if Patton knew all that these intelligence teams located - but likely knew the outlines and could have found out, if he wanted to. [about six months after the war ended the USA stages a highly secret mission in Czechoslovakia to recover Nazi buried 'things'. Czechoslovakia was a friendly nation at the time and discovered the mission - disguised as one to recover downed pilots - just as the American team was making its get-away; part of the team was arrested when they returned to their hotel in Prague, but the things they had dug up at night in the forests south of Prague were already in W. Berlin using a old magic trick and switching identical groups of trucks.....I have a good idea what was discovered and never returned to the Czechoslovaks.] I hope to write this all up some day - as it relates to much of what we see in the post WW2 period and Cold War to today. Bill Kelly would be interested to know that the US secret mission even had a NANA 'reporter' with them.

Yes, there is one theory that Soviet intelligence teamed up with some Americans to do in Patton - each for their own reasons. I don't dismiss it, but find it highly unlikely. There were MANY things that Patton could have been murdered for and the exact one [or ones] we don't yet know, exactly. His death was not a natural one. The man who crashed into his car, admitted he was assigned to the plot just before his death....but that admission was NOT necessary.

[Magda Hassan]

I posted just a few days ago about Patton, and now can't find it.

Pretty sure that was on the Bormann Capital fund thread in Players board.

[Jim Hackett II]

President Eisenhower was instrumental in the further empowerment of the Dulles Brothers conspiracies after the Nat. Sec. Act of 1947.
At least President Truman came to see his error in this act.

Eisenhower ruled in the times of empowerment of the fascists.

Patton living in the times of Joe McCarty assembled with Dugout Doug MacArthur and Curt Le May - truly frightening conspiracy of fascists might have been.
The Cold War in the hands of these folks with Nixon as POTUS in '56? 60?
Megalomania runs in the genome by appearances.
"His guts and our blood" is the common phrase in Patton's 3rd Army in 1944-5.

Patton's zenophobia in the age of Sputnik if he had lived is not something I want to think about much.
But I do have to give him this point,
he didn't always play by the spooks script and this single cause could have gotten him killed aside from all the other intriques.
He played by his own rules.

[Magda Hassan]

President Eisenhower was instrumental in the further empowerment of the Dulles Brothers conspiracies after the Nat. Sec. Act of 1947.
At least President Truman came to see his error in this act.

Eisenhower ruled in the times of empowerment of the fascists.

Patton living in the times of Joe McCarty assembled with Dugout Doug MacArthur and Curt Le May - truly frightening conspiracy of fascists might have been.
The Cold War in the hands of these folks with Nixon as POTUS in '56? 60?
Megalomania runs in the genome by appearances.
"His guts and our blood" is the common phrase in Patton's 3rd Army in 1944-5.

Patton's zenophobia in the age of Sputnik if he had lived is not something I want to think about much.
But I do have to give him this point,
he didn't always play by the spooks script and this single cause could have gotten him killed aside from all the other intriques.
He played by his own rules.

Eisenhower was played like a fiddle by them. I don't think he was one of 'them' though. And once he worked out what was happening and had a clue he did try to warn us. And was too cryptic for most.