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But, of course, I should add about the above post that it's a case of more personalities (throwaways), but still nothing on the protected species - the really powerful players. Nothing changes.
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Seems to me that The Slog is on to something here:
Quote:BY JOHN WARD DECEMBER 4, 2013 ANNA RACCOON FOI REQUEST ON MARK WILLIAMS-THOMAS TURNED DOW - WHY? GRANT SHAPPS MARK WILLIAMS-THOMASRUPERT MURDOCH SURREY POLICE WILLIAMS THOMAS BENEFITS FROM PAEDOMANIA
![[Image: mwtitle.jpg?w=812]](http://hat4uk.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/mwtitle.jpg?w=812) The secretive life & times of a man with an interest in the myth of ubiquitous paedophilia
Mark Williams-Thomas (above) seems to have devoted his life to exposing suspected paedophiles….especially at the BBC. His police career and business interests seem to be the subject of an inordinate amount of secrecy. Why? The Slog does some initial digging.
A bit of throat-clearing to open with, if you can bear with me. I have been investigating genuine child-trafficking rings and systemic paedophilia in our schools, care homes, education systems and politics for seven years now. I've done so in seven cities, three social services constructs, a hospital, four police forces and two local councils. I remain absolutely convinced that there have been cover-ups of genuine paedophile predators and trafficking for over fifty years at least. So I don't poo-pooh the reality of privilege and paedophilia as an element in our culture.
But the fact still remains that over four-fifths of all paedophile abuse takes place within families. I follow the systemic trail largely out of my distaste for bullying privilege: it is of far more interest to me than such a disturbing form of sexual deviancy. But it is a tiny proportion of all cases.
That privilege is still working against the exposure of systemic abuse can be observed just from the lamentable state of the Fernbridge Investigation….a case that has been reopened four times in thirty five years, is still going nowhere, and is now being nobbled by the CPS. And in that context, I have well-founded and very strong suspicions that the alleged BBC disc-jockey-presenter-paedo is a mud-slinging case of mass distraction from the real criminals at high levels. I remain very dubious about the role of Newscorp, the Met, and the Conservative Party in what is clearly turning into a largely baseless witch-hunt against the national broadcaster.
All of which has led me to wonder about the role of one Mark Williams-Thomas.
Most people who work in or report upon the nature of paedofile activity and child-trafficking in the UK know of Mark Williams-Thomas. MWT (I shall henceforth refer to him as) is of course renowned as the national hero who exposed the full ghastliness of Jimmy Savile's ownership of a bike a bike he used to "Groom a Nation" we are somewhat unfeasibly told.
Most people who read The Sun are unutterably brain-damaged. I'm sorry, I'll read that again…Most people who read The Sun have also heard a lot about MWT, because he often talks about The Sun being "about to reveal names" on Twitter, and that he's all in favour of it….as he was for instance about Paul Gambaccini being named…he linked to the Sun on Twitter about that incident on 31st October 2013; as indeed he usually links to The Sun. But he has never revealed as such how he knew that the name was going to be released.
However, most people who work in, with, and around the Police know that MWT also used to be a copper. A copper with Surrey police. A police force on the record as having cooperated with Newscorp on many a caper involving mobile phone messages. You know Surrey police….they're the ones who got Jonathan King banged up. Mr King has quietly strong opinions about Surrey Police.
During 2012, the deputy chief constable of Surrey Police was investigated over the hacking of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler's mobile phone voicemail. The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said it would examine the conduct of Craig Denholm, who led the probe into her disappearance, and also investigate Detective Superintendent Maria Woodall, who took over as senior investigating officer in 2006. The probe followed claims that officers knew in 2002 the phone had been hacked.
It takes one helluva lot to make the IPCC get its arse into gear. But the behaviour of Surrey Plod had not been of the best. And like I say, MWT used to work for, um, Surrey Police. But no slur intended, MWT fair play: I'm sure you were a model cop, having an MA as you do in Child Protection something or other, you being an expert in the field, an' all.
So if that's the case (and do rest assured MWT, I don't listen to idle gossip, and I'm sure it is the case) perhaps you'd like to offer a view on why, on October 2nd 2012, Surrey Police turned down an FOI requestas to your disciplinary record while a member of this fine squad of men.
Even better MWT soddit, I'll call you Mark, as I seem to know you so well by now why don't you do the decent thing that comes so naturally to you, and simply give us the details yourself? Obviously you have nothing to hide Mark: so why not eh?
And one more thing…I don't want to seem picky Mark, but…well, it's just that we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that, potentially I mean, if one was a mean-spirited sort of chap you could point out that MWT is a tarnished witness with (who knows?) an agenda here going far beyond the Sword of Truth and the Shield of Virtue.
You see, MWT not only has a past that could be held against him, he also has a present and a future that could be held to be a massive conflict of interest for such a media-hungry chap. For Mark Williams-Thomas is the founder and owner of WT Associates (bet you can't guess what the WT stands for) - a company offering investigations, expert testimony, courses and training in Child Protection and Risk Management services'. Ah.
So, er, the greater the panic about paedos under every kiddy's bed, the better (one must assume) Mark's company will do. Probably, I would've thought. Which might also explain why he turns up in the media so often an MO that has, let's be clear about this, been established in the past as a jolly good way to grow a business.
Sadly, having been to a few sites in in order to examine WT Associates accounts, I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether Mark would actually be willing to tell us voluntarily about his Surrey Copper years. For not only is his company exempted from making its accounts and shareholdings public, it is also for some reason allowed to make that part of the Companies Act that allows it to do so to remain secret as well. It's a sort of gagg wrapped in a D-Notice and locked in an attic whose location cannot be revealed. As their Companies House entry shows:
The company #s entitled to exemption from audit under Section ### of the Companies Act #### for the year ended ## June ####.
The members have not required the company to obtain an audit of its financial statements for the year ended ## June #### in
accordance with Section ### of the Companies Act ####.' So that's crystal clear, then.
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The thing overall that makes Marky-Mark a man whose past we should examine in forensic detail is that he ticks all the usual boxes when it comes to the ongoing crooked demolition of the BBC's reputation for sexual probity; and that his secretive approach to life plus seamy Twitter slurs point him up, for those of us who still care about such niceties, as a bloke who seems to have one shedload of power, but no accountability to go with it.
That's to say, he was a cop, he used to work in a police force cooperating covertly with Murdoch, and he's passionately businesslike about rooting out all those disgusting paedophiles at the Beeb which Mr Murdoch's Newscorp would like to destroy…an institution that no less a software con merchant than Grant Shapps says should share its licence fee next time around….with, we presume, Newscorp.
I know a fair bit about four of the BBC DJ cases, and the charges' involved. And I've watched what Mark has said, written and tweeted about two of them. In both cases, his "suggestive" copy was, to my near-certain knowledge, tosh. I also continue to weigh the number of crimes of which Jimmy Savile is accused with the reality of his probable sexual bent: and I read or hear what Mark has to say about it. And that too is, in my opinion, also tosh.
So as the sun beats down weakly on a frosty clear day here Somewhere in Europe, I think we should be told more about the conflicts and motives that swim around in MWT's life. Is he just another ex-copper on the make? Is he working in some capacity for a larger employer? Can we trust him? And, er, how's business Mark?
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Yes. this is very interesting isn't it? In Astralia under the newly Murdoch elected proxy government one can hardly hear oneself think over the drum banging and shrill calls to have our own local version of teh public broadcaster closed down broken up and sold off immediately as it is uncompetitive and a public drain on finaces and preventing media diversity (read more Murdoch control of nearly everything here). So far they haven't dragged out any pedophillia skeletons from the closet but they have blamed the ABC for exposing teh Australian spying in Indonesia so they are using teh security threat angle.
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"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Yes. this is very interesting isn't it? In Astralia under the newly Murdoch elected proxy government one can hardly hear oneself think over the drum banging and shrill calls to have our own local version of teh public broadcaster closed down broken up and sold off immediately as it is uncompetitive and a public drain on finaces and preventing media diversity (read more Murdoch control of nearly everything here). So far they haven't dragged out any pedophillia skeletons from the closet but they have blamed the ABC for exposing teh Australian spying in Indonesia so they are using teh security threat angle.
It's what's known in Murdoch spy-speak as "shafting the competition".
And that makes me wonder if Murdoch's secret, black, covert operational name for the destruction of their OZ competition is:
"Pork-sword for Danny Boy"? ::bowtie::
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http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5152/m...sex-partyM
Met Paedophile Unit under Operation Fairbank has seized video with images of ex Minister at sex party organised by Sydney Cooke where children were abused by men. A former Conservative party cabinet member was seen in the footage and has been interviewed by the police.
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“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5152/m...sex-partyM
Met Paedophile Unit under Operation Fairbank has seized video with images of ex Minister at sex party organised by Sydney Cooke where children were abused by men. A former Conservative party cabinet member was seen in the footage and has been interviewed by the police.
That link didn't work for me, but this one should:
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5152/m...-sex-party
Let's see where this goes. Can't say I'm holding my breath though...
Another police investigation got trashed by the CPS - multiple levels of nobbling where required:
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5148/c...fernbridge
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The Slog on the latest Exaro story above.
Will his Lewdship get arrested, charged and sent to court?
I retain my considerable doubts.
Quote:BY JOHN WARD DECEMBER 9, 2013 AMSTERDAM PAEDO TRIPS BORIS JOHNSON FILM OF ELM HOUSE PARTY MINISTER IN ABUSE DENIAL SHOCKTHATCHER MINISTYER CAUGHT ON FILM THE MONDAY CLUB
"I was there, but I didn't inhale"The good news is, Operation FairbridgeFernbank or whatever it is this week has established a witness who has ID'd "an ex political Minister" at Elm House, and said Minister has been approached about it.
Said Minister has indeed said yes it's me, which is sort of inevitable given it bleedin' obviously is, and stuff the abused person has said about intimate clothes-off details of said Minister have turned out to be honestly said. "He had to admit being there because he was filmed at the Party," the alleged victim toldExaro. I'm inclined to agree, on the grounds you'd have to be very odd not to.
Said Minister has said he did not abuse the boy, but as yet no Plod is fessing up to asking him why the boy knows clothes-off stuff about said Minister. Said Minister would be expected to say that he didn't abuse the boy, but said victim has been seen on film at other Parties, so maybe said Minister had brewer's droop that night. You know beyond a shadow of a doubt and all that.
However, having been trained and worked as an information-extracting interviewer over thirty or more years, I am wondering if Plod told said Minister has was in the movie before they asked him any questions about being at the party. I am wondering about this because first, if said Minister at first denied and then said oh dear yes I was, um, sorry I forgot, it would be a very damaging thing to have said; and second, looking through my records here in Sloggers' Roost, I have found a source who said to me three years ago that said Minister had been asked this question before and said "No" which as I already said is what you'd expect him to say.
This is beyond hearsay: it is here there and everywhere say. Except that, it appears there is a film. I wonder how many of the 3,000 dangerous threats to the State rounded up in Croydon and put away a few years ago were caught on film….or merely on the basis of Met Plod's "Right Spook, you're f**kin' nicked".
Millimetre by millimetre, Boris's Bluebottles are blowing this case open. You can tell they're blowing it open, because wait for it a specialist in child protection' has told Exaro "This is potentially bombshell stuff…I have long been aware of the fact that these parties took place in London. This is potentially very significant".
Oh dear. That quote has the unmistakable hallmark of MWT Associates about it. The unfortunate truth is that the parties in Richmond supplied with boys courtesy of Richmond Council Child Buggery Promoters are something we have "been aware of" since the mid 1970s: indeed the case has been opened four times and closed three times in a period stretching back to the time when certain child protection supremos were little more than….well, children at risk themselves.
But in the absence of any further insight, let me add that the alleged victim has also accused the former Minister let's go mad and suggest he was a member of Margaret Thatcher's Cabinet in the early 1980s of rogering him in Amsterdam during jolly-jape Club outings to the Low Countries….hence the involvement of Gouda Cheese Plod in this particular part of the investigation.
So for those genuinely familiar with the case, the realistic shortlist of suspects here contains but two names. And whomever it might be, the trail from him to those very active in 2013 UK Cabinet politics is impossible to deny.
They both hail from a Party to the Government side of the house, but lest anyone try to nail such sexual predilections solely to the Conservative Party, the Mail over the weekend deigned to remind us that several of the Party Opposite were keen on the boy-bottom at the end of the rainbow of sexual experience during the period 1968-1977. The head of the Home Office has, the Mail reports, ordered an investigation into "shocking" allegations that the Government gave tens of thousands of pounds to a notorious paedophile group. It seems that civil servants are trawling through decades' worth of files to look for any evidence that the Home Office once funded the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which openly campaigned to legalise child sex.
Not much point in trawling if the fish are all dead, methinks.
Stay tuned.
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I am so cynical these days, especially about the paedophile cover up of VIPs, that I can't help but wonder if Janner has been targeted as the "Lord" in order to avoid actually naming the other Lord who name has been doing the rounds for decades and who was once a Home Secretary?
There are actually TWO Thatcher era Home Secretary's who were later made Lords, whose names have long been mentioned in regard to paedo activity, but one of these is now dead.
Quote:Police investigating child abuse search peer Greville Janner's home
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Police investigating allegations of historic child abuse linked to children's homes in Leicestershire have searched the home of the Labour peer Greville Janner.
Lord Janner's legal team confirmed on Friday that he was assisting police with their inquiries after officers reportedly spent several days searching his home in Golders Green, north London.
The 85-year-old, who served as an MP in Leicester for 27 years, has not been arrested and police did not indicate what was taken away from the flat.
The father-of-three was accused of child abuse in a court case in 1991 but was not prosecuted and was given all-party support in the House of Commons when he described his ordeal and said there was "not a shred of truth" in the claims against him.
Lord Janner was named by Frank Beck, a former head of three children's homes in Leicestershire, who was given five life terms after 200 children complained that they had been abused by him over 13 years to 1986.
A 30-year-old man also gave evidence that he had been abused by Lord Janner when he was in care aged 13. A letter was shown to the jury that was allegedly sent from the MP to the boy.
The prosecution in the case called the claims a red herring and part of "the great Janner diversion" in an attempt to deflect blame from Beck, the court heard.
Lord Janner gave written evidence to the Kirkwood inquiry which looked into wider failures within the care home system. Beck, one of Britain's most notorious sex offenders, died of a heart attack in 1994 while playing badminton at Whitemoor prison in Cambridgeshire.
Lord Janner was made a life peer in 1997 and is best known for his work to recompense victims of the Holocaust. He chairs the Holocaust Educational Trust and was instrumental in arranging the 1997 London Nazi Looted Gold conference, according to his website. His wife of more than four decades died in 1996.
In a statement, his lawyers WilmerHale said: "Lord Janner has not been arrested but has been assisting the police with their inquiries. We are not able to make any further comment at this time."
In Golders Green, builders working at a house next to Mr Janner's home said they saw a number of police cars at the address on Monday and Tuesday this week.
In the Daily Mail, a man who identified himself as Lord Janner's spiritual healer was quoted as saying the peer was exhausted with the stress of dealing with the police. "He's old and he needs his rest," the man said. "I don't want to say any more."
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Yes. Dirt of both sides but especially on the Tory side of this matter.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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