16-10-2015, 12:48 AM
David Josephs Wrote:You are right Michael... Albert speaking out his A$$ has become an artform.
Albert - where are the buttons on the image being compared?
What are the two white things by arrows #1 & 2 - since everything you see appears to be part of that person
Do you still not understand pixelization and enlargement?
They might not be there because it is possible it isn't the same woman. I'm not sure. They could be buttons, they could be cloth fastening straps.
But while impugning my ability I find it interesting that you avoided my technical argument. That argument says that the things that MacRae is pointing out as buttons can't be freak irregularities because they appear in a precise uniform pattern that can't be random. Irregularities would have to be random. Since there's 4 of those buttons and they show up exactly where buttons would be we are past claiming they are some kind of photo blemish. You therefore owe an explanation for them. The reason they are important is because the lowest button is located in a position that would be too low for any clothing Oswald was wearing and therefore excludes him as Prayer Man.
I have to protest some obvious hypocrisy here. While many persons have said the photos are too blurry to use or photoshopped I see David has had no problem locating what he calls white spots. Those spots may be the upper collar of a coat and ear. However since David can clearly see those spots I would ask him to explain what the dark spots are next to those white spots? I think it is pretty obvious that they are hair, and since the lowest of those dark spots is beneath the neck that would mean Prayer Man has long hair. David's asking the wrong questions here. The dark spots are what he should be curious over. And I don't need to be condescended to David, I understand pixelation and enlargement. I also understand you haven't answered my arguments.
David Josephs Wrote:Albert - it is painfully obvious you know little if anything about how Photoshop works or digital images. If a separate file is not offered, the best we get is 72dpi from these web pages.
I sometimes increase that to 288, which creates pixelization, and then can play with it until whatever I want to come out, does.
The original, as shown at the right does not offer that shiny white "glasses" spot until you mess with the image, and even then it doesn't until you mess with the pixelization
The image posted above as "button lady" on the left does not compare to the image below, which is smooth. As I mentioned the entire 8mm movie frame is only a few millimeters square, the PM image is a fraction of a millimeter
and yet you want to believe because someone has some photoshop skills they've discovered details which are not there?
You're not answering the point. The features MacRae showed were not altered in any way. If I'm reading what you wrote above correctly you're saying a different pixel setting creates quirks that are a product of the pixel change and not present in the actual original. I seriously don't think that's correct. By the way, you can just make out the buttons in your middle picture. So I find amusing that while you offer this down-talking explanation that the buttons you're saying were photoshopped are faintly visible in your own image (which means they are there and are there in the original)
The reason you're wrong, David, is because the buttons are in uniform order where they should be on the coat. If they were the product of pixel alteration they would be random. The odds of them randomly appearing in the correct uniform order of buttons exactly where they should be is astronomical and you haven't answered the better argument here. Those buttons are there and they appear where buttons should be, and you haven't given an adequate explanation for it.
I also think the eyeglass frame is just the product of a better image and better contrast setting bringing them out and nothing more. You're trying to obfuscate this David instead of answering what's there. I actually think it is you who lacks the correct understanding of the valid photo method MacRae used.