Manhattan DA To Probe Kilgallen Death

[Tom Scully]

Jim, I will reply to your post shortly, but I consistently make it a point to confront and debunk Doyle's misrepresentations and distortions as he presents them.

Doyle, you are lecturing Jim DiEugenio and I....? Leaving your perch in you delusional world of phantasy to attempt it? Janney in his own words....:






Despite the fact that I discovered and shared the middle name of Janney's contrived CIA villain, a safe (because Janney accepted and relied on "wet work" Mitchell not ever being identified) but fictional scapegoat, on this time stamped page,
as readers can see In the page excerpted from his book, Peter Janney could not keep himself from falsely crediting himself with the discovery!

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....ot/&page=9

That's the problem with you Jim, you ignore good evidence in order to return to a foisted demand for strict evidence. This type of CT "skepticism" is very little different in method and approach from Bugliosi. Your bias is shown in your comparing of Kilgallen, a career journalist with a professional journalism background, with Janney, a psychotherapist whose only motivation in writing his book was to inform the public of his insider experience. In my opinion a more objective analyzer would take in to account Janney's background and conspiracy analysis skill level and apply a fair scale to it in order to evaluate his legitimacy. What I see with you and Tom is two flaw-seeking advantage-takers seeking to discredit Janney while ignoring his good evidence. If you are only seeking flaws you will find them in Janney because he doesn't have the CT experience and wisdom that some veteran critics have. It is not a fair match-up and is not reasonable to hold Janney accountable to the level of CT skill you possess. However, in the many years we have been discussing Janney I have yet to see either you or Tom respond to the good evidence Janney produced like Toni Shimon or Mitchell making up a phony University funding source for his hiatus in England. It's pretty clear Mitchell was gotten out of town to a safe ally where his credibility was compromised by making him a hippy. And no matter how much you two use Damore to deny it, Janney did credibly show that Mitchell used CIA safe-houses and cover jobs, the pattern of a real spook. You and Tom don't don't seem to understand how evidence works. You guys can trumpet what you think are flaws in Janney, however the "little-bit-pregnant" rule dictates that once you find legitimate evidence it can't be cancelled-out by other failures. It just doesn't work the way you and Tom are trying to force. I thought this was a commonly understood premise of Deep Political analysis. You and Tom try to dominate the Janney issue with your attacks on his Mitchell claims while ignoring the fact he witnessed highly incriminating behavior first hand in his father pretending not to have known Mary Meyer was dead, even though he collected evidence to show his father had known hours earlier. That's where the efforts of credible analyzers should be, in my opinion.


The implications of this are not unsubstantial. What is at stake here is a very real and significant CIA black operation assassination might go unregistered because of you and Tom's backwards efforts. Frankly I think you are getting carried away with your otherwise excellent critical abilities and losing sight of the bigger picture. What I'm seeing in that bigger picture is you endorsing the denial of important assassination conspiracy evidence like Ralph Yates and Janney. If you look at the stated purpose of Deep Political analysis it is supposed to be dedicated to finding the correct record on the assassination. Wrong-headed denial of very real and meaningful assassination events works directly against that purpose. For god's sake Jim you are openly endorsing one of the most dubious assassination research organizations to ever form while trying to rally an animus against me for following the correct Deep Political line. To me there's a sharp contrast in your endorsement of that bogus group with your assumed dedication to rigor that you suggest here. In my opinion your critical analysis skill would be better spent on ROKC where there is practically an unlimited opportunity to point out flawed claims. Oh, and I read every word of your article. I'm wondering if that is true for yourself however in the Murphy issue since we are still waiting for a response from you on Davidson's metadata.


Also, no good movie can come from someone who intends to assert the Marcello mafia-did-it angle. In any case, this subject would be aided by finding the source of the off-duty cop bartender getting a large amount of money shortly after Kilgallen's death. I tried to find it but couldn't. I wouldn't doubt that it was removed from Google, like such information tends to be.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....ent-274713
Guest Tom Scully
Posted May 28, 2013
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This is some fancy writing on Peter Janney's part, he dances around, even sharing with us the coincidence that his friend and fellow author, H.P. Albarelli, once resided at 1500 Arlington Blvd., as if to give the impression that Albarelli, too is supporting Janney's claim that 1500 Arlington Blvd. was a CIA safehouse.
Considering that Janney emphasized, in his, WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY? I AM PETER JANNEY, DO NOT CRITICIZE ME, scold of Jim and Lisa, that he now had three sources confirming that 1500 Arlington Blvd. was a CIA safehouse, read closely and you will find there is one name providing confirmation that 1500 Arlington Blvd. was a CIA safehouse.
So with just one source for this "fact" aside from the very questionable old assertions from Leo Damore, allegedly quoting the 74 years old, "aka William L. Mitchell," Peter Janney misled all who read his recent condemnation of Jim and Lisa by claiming he had three confirming sorces.:

This entry is inside my post quoted below, in response to one of several times Doyle has posted what impresses him....what he weighs as if it was verifiable fact! :

Astronautics & Aeronautics - Volume 2 - Page 274
https://books.google.com/books?id=yF0qAQAAMAAJ
1964 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
Home; 309 Oak Park Dr. , Tullahoma (A) WELSH, DR. EDWARD C., Exec. Secy., NASA Hq., Washington, D.C, Home: 1500 Arlington Blvd. , Arlington, Va. (

It escapes Doyle, no matter how many times it is placed in front of him, that speculation shaped by suspicion shaped by poorly supported and incomplete assumptions is only speculation, not evidence, not conclusive....

Tom:

Did you drop that utterly fascinating observation made by Culto?

In her desperation to acquit her client in all aspects, it appears that Roundtree manufactured an alibi witness for him?

I thought that was really compelling.

That case was not just a case to her. It was a cause in which she was wedded to getting her client off, even if she had to, let us say, upholster evidence.

There's lots of evidence Crump was innocent. Wiggins felt like he was lured there to witness something. The broken down car mysteriously had no record of its existence or work order. The murder scene almost certainly required blood spatter and gunpowder residue. Both Crump and his clothes came up negative. The scene was meticulously scoured yet no murder weapon was ever discovered. Janney showed that there were witnesses to Leary's investigation of Mary Meyer's death at the time. Why would Timothy Leary take extraordinary measures to travel to New York to investigate Mary Meyer's murder if he didn't have any relationship with her? Ann Chamberlin admitted to being a member of Mary Meyer's Washington LSD group but then spooked when pressed on it. Mitchell was caught lying about his funding source for his hiatus in England. He did live at a CIA safe house and did work at a known CIA cover job facility.

These are off the top of my head. If we go back to Janney we'll find more like Angleton's curiosity over Meyer's diary. Angleton was the safe-cracker like with Win Scott who was known to go after dangerous documents personally. Something was going on there and Janney personally witnessed his father faking lack of knowledge of Meyer's death as well as other incriminating timing.

Joe Shimon was practically open about it with his daughter Toni and CIA operatives Janney talked to admitted Mary Meyer was one of their jobs.

I see a similarity in modus operandi between Sirhan and Crump. CIA doesn't give a damn Crump got off. They got what they wanted.

Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. ...

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1629143162

Peter Janney - 2013 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision for World Peace Peter Janney ... 10 Mitchell also gave his addressas 1500 Arlington Boulevard, Arlington,Virginiaa buildingknownas the Virginian.

Astronautics & Aeronautics - Volume 2 - Page 274

https://books.google.com/books?id=yF0qAQAAMAAJ
1964 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
Home; 309 Oak Park Dr. , Tullahoma (A) WELSH, DR. EDWARD C., Exec. Secy., NASA Hq., Washington, D.C, Home: 1500 Arlington Blvd. , Arlington, Va. (

I have put that information and those concerns in front of this particular individual, but it gave him no pause.



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truth
3 a : the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact or reality



Peter Janney on 22 November, 2013 told his Santa Barbara audience (podcast link) (at 1:47.38, Janney: ."and that case is still in adjudication...") of his "important" wrongful death lawsuit he had filed against Crump witness William L. Mitchell. Janney indicated to his audience that this lawsuit was active and its outcome would yield new information. it is troubling that Janney's attorney William Pepper had filed a motion in DC court on 18 November, four days before, to dismiss this same lawsuit WITH PREJUDICE. The image off thie court filings can be viewed:

Washington DC court records display the fact that on 18 Novemberm 2013 Janney dismissed his lawsuit against William L Mitchell, is which Janney had claimed Mary Meyer was his "surrogate mother: by filing a motion for dismissal with prejudice with that court. Janney's motion for dismissal was granted on 2 Dec, 2013 by Judge Anthony C. Epstein. :

Court Cases Online - D.C. Courts

https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf


Searching by name. Enter either a combination of last name and first name.....



Janney could have conceded in August, 2012, when I first presented this.:





Ten months later, in Peter Janney's revised, paperback edition of Mary's Mosaic, I read this false claim:

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1629143162

Peter Janney - 2013 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Discussing hiscritical post of Mary's Mosaic inan emailtoa University ofGeorgia law professor, Scully identified himself as ... I discoveredthat William Mitchell's middle name was "Lockwood," therebygivingus another needed pieceofthe puzzle ...

INSTEAD, the ethics deprived Janney has claimed in his paperback book edition that HE discovered that Mitchell earned an MS at Harvard and has the middle name, Lockwood. If you've listened to the
21 November, 2012 podcast time marks I linked to, you can observe that Janney himself could not verify Mitchell's Harvard attendance, one of several details he learned of through me, along with
Mitchell's middle name, which I had disclosed in early August, 2012.

In addtion to the "problems" I describe at the bottom of this post, in my "sig," there is also this to ponder over.:

https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/bu...ivate.html
CHAPTER ONE A Very Private WomanThe Life and Unsolved Murder of Presidential Mistress Mary Meyer
MURDER IN GEORGETOWN.....................
Mary Draper Janney, a dark-eyed historian who taught at a private suburban Washington day school, had roomed with Mary at Vassar. She retained her 1940s style into the 1960s, even though she was married and the mother of three children, and her students thought of her as a capital-city version of Lauren Bacall, with her rumpled, mannish suits, whiskey voice, and habit of lighting up cigarettes in class. She was married to CIA man Wistar Janney. Mary Janney sat in a pew near another Vassar classmate, the bouncy blond Scottie Fitzgerald Lanahan--F. Scott Fitzgerald's daughter--and her husband, Washington attorney Jack Lanahan......

http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2018/...201157.pdf


In Gatsby's Shadow: The Story of Charles Macomb Flandrau

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1587295156
Larry Haeg - 2004 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
Cornelius Van Ness, co-owner with Tom Boyd of St. Paul's Kil marnock ... home on three acres in New Canaan, Connecticut, where Van Ness spent the rest of ...




How do you suppose Mr. Cogswell of Scarsdale, living less than a mile from the home of Fitzgerald's book agent, Harold Ober, knew of the Van Nesses? Could it have been through his Phillips Exeter schoolmate, Richard Ober, son of Harold? The family Fitzgerald's daughter, Scottie, resided with while she attended school in Scarsdale?

There is also this, and there is a link to F. Scott Firzgerald, although more improbable than the Cogswell "thing".

C_I_A_operatorAugust 12, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Your statement that the Russian people are a great people, particularly for having defeated the Nazis and other fascists....
This is an insane statement, and particularly for anyone who served in national security in the cold war.
Almost every government figure I knew except for the Jews Walt Rostow and his assassin buddy David Strier, believed that Nazisim and fascism [which are two different things] were much preferable to Stalinism......

Be inventive, be original, trust no one, not even the son of the personnel manager of the CIA who took the minutes of the meeting of Ray Rocca fretting over the fate of Clay Shaw.......