Shelley and Lovelady? Are You Sure??

[Bob Prudhomme]

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[/FONT]Sorry, Albert but, unless Shelley and Lovelady both committed perjury and lied about Gloria Calvery, that CANNOT be Calvery seen running toward the TSBD steps in the Darnell film, as they both clearly stated they did NOT leave the steps until they had spoken to Gloria Calvery ON the steps.

Despite your vivid fantasies about Running Woman speaking to the two men walking down the Elm St. extension, the testimonies say this cannot be Calvery.

Do you believe Shelley and Lovelady committed perjury and lied to the Warren Commission?

I think it is fairly safe to say Lovelady's 3 minute claim is inaccurate because the Gerda Dunkel film shows Shelley and Lovelady walking away as the woman runs up. I can clearly see Shelley pull up and look over to the woman in order to talk to her but she keeps running by so Shelley follows on behind Lovelady.


The more important thing the Dunkel clip shows is Frazier is clearly facing Prayer Man when the woman runs up. If we go to Frazier's testimony he said a woman ran up shouting the president had been shot. He didn't hear her so he asked Sarah Stanton what she said. Stanton replied "I think she said the president had been shot". If you look at the famous Darnell shot of Prayer Man, the woman is running up right when the frame is taken.


You should listen to your journalist friend who said the Depository was an Intel storefront when judging the veracity of statements coming from it. At that point film evidence becomes your only reliable friend...

Do you believe Shelley and Lovelady committed perjury and lied to the Warren Commission?

Pray tell Bob, what possible consequences would they face? How do you know they weren't lying for the Commission? Again, who do you believe? Testimony or your own lying eyes? Dunkel clearly shows a woman running up to the steps from the Grassy Knoll direction.

Like most fanatics, Albert, you have a habit of conveniently overlooking pieces of evidence that contradict your beliefs.

While Shelley's and Lovelady's WC testimony regarding their not leaving the TSBD steps for 3-4 minutes following the last shot can be called into question due to the fact many people have trouble estimating time, the fact remains that both men testified they did NOT leave the TSBD steps UNTIL Gloria Calvery arrived at the steps and relayed the news of the assassination to them.

Your belief that Calvery shouted the news of the assassination to them while they were walking to the rail yards, and she was running to the TSBD steps, has absolutely ZERO evidence to support it, and is nothing more than a fantasy dreamed up by you and others. If you disagree with this view, please post your supporting evidence.

The uncomfortable truth of the matter is that Running Woman has not made it to the TSBD steps in the Darnell film, is obviously going to arrive there AFTER Baker arrives there, and "Shelley" and "Lovelady" are already well away from the steps.

The only way for your fantasy to be true is if Shelley and Lovelady both outright lied about their encounter with Gloria Calvery to the Warren Commission.