Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

[LR Trotter]

Given the following testimony by Billy Nolan Lovelady, a policeman and Roy Truly didn't enter the building until well after 3 minutes, which runs contrary to what the backstairs-duo testified to in their respective testimonies. Take it away, Billy ---->

Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time.
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, it's---I say approximately; I can't say because I don't have a watch; it could.
Mr. BALL - Had people started to run?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps.
Mr. BALL - Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.

Compared to ---->

Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Then you came back. How long did you stay around the railroad tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, just a minute, maybe minute and a half.
Mr. BALL - Then what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY - Came back right through that part where Mr. Campbell, Mr. Truly, and Mr. Shelley park their cars and I came back inside the building.
Mr. BALL - And enter from the rear?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, sir; sure did.

Interesting that Lovelady doesn't describe a distinctive white helmeted "motorcycle officer" accompanying Truly, using instead a generic term of a mere policeman who enters the building with Truly some three minutes later than what the backstairs duo claim.

Reconstructing a sense of reality, amid a hastily contrived script laced with lies...sorting through all of Truly & Baker's inconsistencies, many discussions off the record, etc., amid a hastily contrived script to FRAME an innocent party isn't easy.

A Locked roof…

… not even a single soul sharing the same space sequentially (0-7) corroborates the hole-in-ones, and that BIG fish that get away that the backstairs duo manage to experience when no one else is around;

…and, of course, that glaringly obvious LIE told by Mrs. Reid about a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with the wrongly accused.

Given Lovelady's testimony, where Baker is sprinting well ahead of the three minutes it took for Billy Lovelady to leave the steps, it opens the strong possibility that the sprinting Baker simply sprinted from his bike, over to the corner of Elm & Houston and, subsequently, down Houston to the rear entrance…because in his own words Billy didn't see a policeman enter until after he left the steps and looked back in that direction some, quote, "Twenty, 25" steps away.

The identity of the white helmeted motorcycle policeman arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via the West elevator remains unknown to date. Just who was/is that particular motorcycle policeman?

My wager is it is Baker himself, given the timely manner Jack Dougherty brought it down to the first floor, and Bonnie Ray Williams' subsequent eyewitness of that same elevator arriving back up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor, with a white helmeted motorcycle officer aboard no less.

Why was Truly so certain anyone was missing in a seven story building?

Maybe in a one room schoolhouse perhaps, but certainly raising more than a few eyebrows in a seven story building. Why did he set his main focus upon only one single individual when others weren't yet accounted for either?

For the very same reason why Mrs. Reid outright lied about a phantom encounter with the wrongly accused…

they had a hastily contrived script amid a legion of lies to follow.

Unlike comments by some posters, regarding nonconforming eyewitness testimony, I will not indicate a belief that BillyNolanLovelady lied in his testimony about the timing of events just after the DealeyPlaza shooting that fatally wounded JFK, Sr and critically wounded JBC, Jr. I do believe, in at least some testimony, he misjudged, and/or misremembered said timing. To believe that the TSBD landing and steps occupants stayed there, dumbfounded, for 3 minutes after the shooting is beyond believable. And, it is not corroborated by other eyewitness and investigator testimony.

There are links, on this thread, to testimony, under oath, of many eyewitnesses of the events occurring in and around the TSBD near the time of the assassination. And, conflicting testimony exists to disprove many expressed assertions, as seen on this thread.

The 2nd floor lunchroom encounter, at about 12:31:15pm/12:31:30pm CST on 11/22/'63, at the TSBD, is not a hoax/phantom event, and there is sufficient reliable evidence to conclude that it happened as described. And, repeating assertions void of evidence cannot change a fact.