30-11-2017, 12:53 PM
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:New evidence is always welcome. It strengthens the past evidence.
Not if it pretends the past evidence doesn't exist, Peter.
The case for conspiracy is prima facie. But in the CAPA Mock Trial and the Writings of James DiEugenio the prima facie case is never acknowledged. Indeed, DiEugenio brags about ignoring it.
Obfuscation is the collateral damage of good research. Good research proving JFK was shot in the head from the front should not be presented as the first evidence JFK was shot from the front, as a revelation.
The acoustics evidence proves 4+ shots fired -- but that should not obfuscate the fact that the clothing evidence proves two shooters, already. The clothing defects prove the frontal shot, with the neck x-ray as corroboration the back shot could not have caused the hairline fracture of the T1 transverse process, which could only have been the result of a shot from the front.
Quote: Those who believe Oswald didn't do it have always been correct - and this only makes us more correct - so why not accept and celebrate it rather than rail against something that adds to your own beliefs and 'side' of the argument?
I don't divide the world into LNers and CTs.
I divide the world into those who acknowledge the prima facie, salient fact of conspiracy -- and those who don't.
I rail against the views of CAPA and James DiEugenio because their good research is generating too much collateral damage.
CAPA lost the most winnable case in history 6 - 5. They put the jurors to sleep. They studiously ignored the prima facie case, the only case that will appeal to millennials who don't have the time for JFK complexity-fetishes.
Quote: There is something quite unique about dyed in the wool JFK people - they can fight with people they agree with. Not only can they - they too often do!
I'm not in that club.
I'm of the Vincent Salandria School.
I see fighting/pugilistic behavior for the sake of fighting/pugilistic behavior. You are not the only one...but you are one IMO. I ask you try to refrain. It starts to approach the rublic of ad hom attacks. You have stated your views. Our enemies, adversaries or persons to persuade are less within the 'community' than with the opposition or those too disinterested, to busy struggling to survive, or too thick to understand the details and yes complexities of the JFK case. While it can be simplified some, it can not be simplified. You can present what YOU think is the minimalist argument 'necessary', the opposition and the propaganda ministry will add complexity to negate your message. Besides, we each have our areas of expertise and even of events we think constitute the minimal/necessary open and closed case to prove the Big Lie. Again, the more we combine information and get new information the better. I personally think many people are too uneducated, not practiced or disciplined enough in formal logic to follow a logical argument, be it minimalist or highly complex. The majority already suspect the Big Lie of the official version and are waiting for the officials to declare it. [which they never will]. One has to get rid of the propaganda ministry or find a way to negate it to get out even the simplest of messages. The internet has been an aide to this, but now they begin to control the internet in many ways to take back propaganda control. Each to his own and stop the bickering - all.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass