30-11-2017, 08:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 30-11-2017, 08:34 PM by Cliff Varnell.)
Peter Lemkin Wrote:I see fighting/pugilistic behavior for the sake of fighting/pugilistic behavior. You are not the only one...but you are one IMO.
Impugn my motives all you want, but I for one will not stand by idly and watch younger generations get lost to the cause because of the complexity-fetishes of my fellow boomers.
Quote: I ask you try to refrain. It starts to approach the rublic of ad hom attacks. You have stated your views. Our enemies, adversaries or persons to persuade are less within the 'community' than with the opposition or those too disinterested, to busy struggling to survive, or too thick to understand the details and yes complexities of the JFK case.
I disagree. I'm trying to persuade members of this community to quit micro-analyzing complex data and pick up the Weaponized Fact of Conspiracy instead.
I don't care how many Mock Trials CAPA runs -- they'll never get younger people on our side until they present the prima facie case.
Quote:While it can be simplified some, it can not be simplified.
Sorry Peter, I don't buy it.
You guys can kick me out of here -- that's your prerogative. But when I see someone claim as Jim D does that we haven't had evidence of a front shot until now I'm going to push back.
Quote: You can present what YOU think is the minimalist argument 'necessary', the opposition and the propaganda ministry will add complexity to negate your message.
It's not the "propaganda ministry" attempting to un-necessarily complicate the case -- it's the JFKA Critical Community!
Quote:Besides, we each have our areas of expertise and even of events we think constitute the minimal/necessary open and closed case to prove the Big Lie. Again, the more we combine information and get new information the better.
On one hand you decry "the propaganda ministry" adding un-necessary complexity but on the other hand you celebrate the JFKA Critical Community adding un-necessary complexity.
Which is it?
The CAPA Mock Trial did not "combine information," it ignored the prima facie case!
Millennials won't sit still for anything but the prima facie case.
Quote: I personally think many people are too uneducated, not practiced or disciplined enough in formal logic to follow a logical argument, be it minimalist or highly complex. The majority already suspect the Big Lie of the official version and are waiting for the officials to declare it. [which they never will].
Support for the conspiracy position used to run 80% -- now it's consistently down to 60%. The conspiracy side is losing millennials and the college educated.
Complex proofs of conspiracy are counter-productive and un-neccessary.
Quote: One has to get rid of the propaganda ministry or find a way to negate it to get out even the simplest of messages.
Gaeton Fonzi showed the way in 1966 when he weaponized the clothing evidence in an interview with Arlen Specter and reduced the high-powered legal eagle into a babbling fool within minutes.
If the JFKA Critical Community reached consensus on the T3 back wound and consistently delivered that weaponized fact the "propaganda ministry" would be negated.
Quote: The internet has been an aide to this, but now they begin to control the internet in many ways to take back propaganda control. Each to his own and stop the bickering - all.
What you call bickering I call "Wielding the Weaponized Fact against those who attempt to negate it."