22-02-2018, 06:08 PM
Tracy: Your comment about being conflicted if you were contemplating Operation Valkyrie set off a chain reaction in my thinking about Valkyrie and the JFK conspiracy.
It seems likely that the JFK assassination was due to "unfinished business" arising from the botched attempt on Hitler in Valkyrie. Just think about the following:
(1) Allen Dulles was apparently involved in fomenting and funding the plot from his OSS base in Berne, Switzerland. Dulles would have been playing both sides.
(2) Countess Mechtilde Podewils was the secretary to General Stueplnagel, Commander in Chief in Paris during the attempt. He was executed and Countess Podewils was interrogated by the Gestapo multiple times. Of course, Countess Podewils was married to Otepka biographer William J. Gill and she was in Washington on 11-22-63 as far as we know. Her husband and she ran a Washington DC bookstore around that time. Her family were Catholic Bavarian Monarchists. She came to the US under paperclip.
(3) Heinrich Muller, head of the Gestapo was an escaped Nazi regarding whom there are claims that he was hired as a consultant by the US Government after the War. Gregory Douglas claimed that he was actually in the White House advising Truman, but that's not proven nor even likely. But he has some post WWII role.
(4) Maj. Horst Kopkow, Muller's Deputy has been proven to be a consultant to the UK government after the War and into the 1960's and even the 1970's. Both Kopkow and Muller were allies and the plotters, including Himmler who was also with them were basically Bavarian Catholic Monarchists. The Valkyrie plot would have restored a monarchy, possibly the Bavarian Catholic Monarch of the Guelphs.
(5) On the other side was General Adolf Huesinger. He was Chairman of the NATO Military Committee. He commanded 400 officers and employees in the Pentagon on 11-22-63. He was standing next to Hitler when the bomb went off 07-22-1944. He was a strong ally of Hitler and was anti-Valkyrie.
(6) General Walter Dornberger, the supervisor of Michael Paine at Bell Aerospace was involved. It is not clear whether he was Catholic but he was sympathetic to another General who was persecuted by Hitler due to his Catholicism. Dornberger always refused to join the Nazi Party and he never did. This also may indicate that he was either Catholic or pro-Catholic.
(7) Wernher von Braun was, like Major Horst Kopkow, an East Prussian. Von Braun joined the SS and it's not clear whether he would have been pro-Valkyrio or anti-Valkyrie. He was a not a leader but a follower and was probably agnostic about Valkyrie.
(8) The West Germany Wehrmacht was anti-Valkyrie and considered the plotters to be traitors. The main example was General Hans Speidel. Speidel was commander of the NATO Central Command on 11-22-63. All of the ex-Nazis in the West German Government were anti-Valkyrie and considered the Valkyrie plotters to be pro-US and to be traitors to Germany.
(9) Konrad Adenauer was a fanaticlally Catholic political activist, would have been a monarchist if he could and was probably pro-Valkyrie. Adenauer was anti-reunification in order to keep West Germany Catholic.
(10) General Reinhard Gehlen was in charge of CIA operations in Europe post-World War 2 Europe. He was pro Hitler and definitely ant-Valkyrie. He was very tight with Allen Dulles who recruited him.
(11) General Edwin Walker was, of course, stationed in Bavaria which was the occupation zone of the US in the partition of Germany post-WWII. Like General George S. Patton, he apparently got entangled in West German politics. His allegiance would likely have followed his religious affiliation. If he were Catholic, then he would have been the Adenauer, Muller, Himmler pro-Valkyrie faction.
JFK may have been flirting with the re-unification of Germany as a neutralist country like Austria. That is what the Soviets wanted. The Catholic activists like Adenauer considered that thinking to be anethema.
It's obvious to me that JFK wound up on the losing side of this argument and paid with his life.
James Lateer
It seems likely that the JFK assassination was due to "unfinished business" arising from the botched attempt on Hitler in Valkyrie. Just think about the following:
(1) Allen Dulles was apparently involved in fomenting and funding the plot from his OSS base in Berne, Switzerland. Dulles would have been playing both sides.
(2) Countess Mechtilde Podewils was the secretary to General Stueplnagel, Commander in Chief in Paris during the attempt. He was executed and Countess Podewils was interrogated by the Gestapo multiple times. Of course, Countess Podewils was married to Otepka biographer William J. Gill and she was in Washington on 11-22-63 as far as we know. Her husband and she ran a Washington DC bookstore around that time. Her family were Catholic Bavarian Monarchists. She came to the US under paperclip.
(3) Heinrich Muller, head of the Gestapo was an escaped Nazi regarding whom there are claims that he was hired as a consultant by the US Government after the War. Gregory Douglas claimed that he was actually in the White House advising Truman, but that's not proven nor even likely. But he has some post WWII role.
(4) Maj. Horst Kopkow, Muller's Deputy has been proven to be a consultant to the UK government after the War and into the 1960's and even the 1970's. Both Kopkow and Muller were allies and the plotters, including Himmler who was also with them were basically Bavarian Catholic Monarchists. The Valkyrie plot would have restored a monarchy, possibly the Bavarian Catholic Monarch of the Guelphs.
(5) On the other side was General Adolf Huesinger. He was Chairman of the NATO Military Committee. He commanded 400 officers and employees in the Pentagon on 11-22-63. He was standing next to Hitler when the bomb went off 07-22-1944. He was a strong ally of Hitler and was anti-Valkyrie.
(6) General Walter Dornberger, the supervisor of Michael Paine at Bell Aerospace was involved. It is not clear whether he was Catholic but he was sympathetic to another General who was persecuted by Hitler due to his Catholicism. Dornberger always refused to join the Nazi Party and he never did. This also may indicate that he was either Catholic or pro-Catholic.
(7) Wernher von Braun was, like Major Horst Kopkow, an East Prussian. Von Braun joined the SS and it's not clear whether he would have been pro-Valkyrio or anti-Valkyrie. He was a not a leader but a follower and was probably agnostic about Valkyrie.
(8) The West Germany Wehrmacht was anti-Valkyrie and considered the plotters to be traitors. The main example was General Hans Speidel. Speidel was commander of the NATO Central Command on 11-22-63. All of the ex-Nazis in the West German Government were anti-Valkyrie and considered the Valkyrie plotters to be pro-US and to be traitors to Germany.
(9) Konrad Adenauer was a fanaticlally Catholic political activist, would have been a monarchist if he could and was probably pro-Valkyrie. Adenauer was anti-reunification in order to keep West Germany Catholic.
(10) General Reinhard Gehlen was in charge of CIA operations in Europe post-World War 2 Europe. He was pro Hitler and definitely ant-Valkyrie. He was very tight with Allen Dulles who recruited him.
(11) General Edwin Walker was, of course, stationed in Bavaria which was the occupation zone of the US in the partition of Germany post-WWII. Like General George S. Patton, he apparently got entangled in West German politics. His allegiance would likely have followed his religious affiliation. If he were Catholic, then he would have been the Adenauer, Muller, Himmler pro-Valkyrie faction.
JFK may have been flirting with the re-unification of Germany as a neutralist country like Austria. That is what the Soviets wanted. The Catholic activists like Adenauer considered that thinking to be anethema.
It's obvious to me that JFK wound up on the losing side of this argument and paid with his life.
James Lateer