26-04-2018, 05:24 PM
I thought I would share with members the very interesting research that is ongoing between TrineDay, their researchers and the efforts of this writer to dig up new leads:
Per Kris Millegan:
(1) Johnny Rosselli, just prior to his demise, confided to his long-time attorney Tom Wadden that he had been involved in planning the assassination of President Kennedy.
(2) One of Rosselli's closest friends throughout his life was Chicago gangster Charles "Babe" Baron. Baron, suspected of involvement in at least two Depression-era murders, worked in Meyer Lansky-owned Cuban casinos, AND was a Brigadier General in the Illinois National Guard. In 1963, Baron was apparently on active military duty at the Pentagon. (Your tax dollars at work...)
(3) The HSCA discovered (through an interview with Tony Zoppi) that one of Baron's close friends was Gen. Curtis Lemay. An investigator found that Baron was visiting Lemay the very week that they had spoken to Zoppi.
(4) Lemay fudged his post-assassination travel itinerary to his biographer, Thomas Coffey, claiming that he had to rush to arrive in Washington in time for the funeral, when Air Force records make it clear that he arrived about 7:30 PM on the evening of the assassination. In time to be seen later that evening by Paul O'Conner in the Bethesda morgue. Where he seemingly had no official reason to be...
This story can be expanded a bit (sources available upon request). It proves nothing. It is, I submit, a very provocative, intersting collection of information, worthy of further examination. One should juxtapose it with some of Lemay's opinions about the Kennedy administration that were expressed in oral history interviews he gave during the 70's and 80's, in which he really "cut loose" about the danger he believed these men posed.
Mr. Millegan: (from James Lateer)
I am continuing to rack my brain about your clue about Charles Baron, Johnny Roselli and the JFK case. Attached is an interesting link about a pistol with some information on Baron. On ancestry.com I found a Jewish soldier in Chicago by the name of Charles Baron. Of course, General Julius Klein of Chicago was the head of the Jewish War Veterans and was a General in the Illinois National Guard in this era.
The more I read about Whitey Bulger, Johnny Roselli, John W. McCormack, Harry S. Truman and the Kennedy's, the more it seems like there wasn't a clear dividing line between the criminal element and the US Government.
It is noteworthy that according to Bornschein (in Gestopochef Heinrich Muller), when Juan Peron was deposed in 1955-1956, four Nazis including Muller fled from Argentina to Cuba and, according to the author, were protected by Castro. Of course this would be difficult since Castro did not take power until 1959. If Muller was in Cuba and working with the Mafia, Batista and Castro, (at any time) this puts him in the middle of that big mess. That would also include Antonio Veciana, Carlos Prio Socarras and the Cubans, etc. etc.
One of the wild cards in this scenario is the involvement of Curtis LeMay and Charles Baron. The only way that LeMay and this gangster could have been friends would be if they had been somehow acquainted before World War II. Possibly going to the same high school or something like that. Or maybe being related by marriage. The Air Force image of people like General Lauris Norstad or Eddie Warburg doesn't seem to comport with organized crime connnections.
To properly analyze that, someone would have to read up on LeMay and his history. I personally don't think LeMay was a JFK plotter, since he is never mentioned as Nazi-friendly as were General Patton or General Edwin Walker. But he was at the JFK autopsy (apparently).
It looks like Operation Mongoose was part of the JFK solution whether you come at it from the Roselli angle or the Heinrich Muller angle, or the Otto Skorzeny (Ralph Ganis) angle, or from the Ultimate Sacrifice (Waldron-Hartmann) "C-Day" angle.
Will continue to work on this.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...n-38?text=
Jim Lateer
From: Kris Millegan:
Operation Mongoose was the main vehicle for much of the workings of the JFK Assassination, along with Division 5. The overarching mechanism is the Secret Societal System. The hit is the easy part, the get-away was professional, the scenario and cover-up are the heavy lifts. MHO.
Mr. Millegan:
Found a newspaper article which said General Lemay and Charles Baron were Air Force buddies and were together socially in 1971. Also, Baron was a member of the American Legion National Security Commission in 1964. I have never heard of that organization before. It was apparently founded in 1918 or 1919. It may have had some connection to the White Sands Missile operation. There is no info on Charles Baron being in the Air Force that I have yet found, although the Air Force was not separate until 1947.
Charles Baron was also a "greeter" for the Las Vegas Sands and was described as the connection of the Las Vegas Sands in Chicago. He lived at the Bay Meadows Turf Club, apparently in Las Vegas where he was visited (in Las Vegas) in 1971 by LeMay.
He had the Ford Dealership in Chicago in 1954 and was mentioned in the Senate Investigation in 1951 as being a friend of John Roselli at that time. His active military career lasted at least from 1938 to 1952 and was described as being a Brigadier-General of the Illinois National Guard when attending the 46th meeting ot the American Legion National Security Commission annual reunion in New Mexico in 1964.
I don't know how he would be still in the Illinois National Guard and at the same time living in Las Vegas in 1971. I'm not sure when the Ford Dealership in Chicago ended with respect to Baron. I was able to get into the family tree of General Lemay and he was not related to Charles Baron as far as I can tell. I found no ancestry information which definitively involves the Charles Baron we are dealing with.
Charles Baron was in the Illinois National Guard beginning in 1952, but was on active military status from 1938 to 1951. I don't necessarily buy the idea that General Lemay and Baron were "Air Force buddies" as was reported in the Las Vegas newspaper. No clue about why they would be social friends. I probably need to know a lot more about Lemay. On the surface, he looks like an All-American midwestern guy from a modest family who went to Ohio State. We know that during WWII Lemay was involved with the Strategic Bombing campaign which had to take up all of his attention. Ohio State does not mix with Mafia. Full-time Strategic Bombing does not mix with General Lemnizter-type cloak and dagger stuff in WWII. Or OSS or Allen Dulles or Operation Paperclip.
If Charles Baron had served in any high profile role in World War II as did Lemay, there would be some info about it. He went from a Captain in 1941 to a Lieutenant-Colonel in 1946. He was a Lieutenant Colonel in 1951. Not sure why a famous General like Lemay would be friendly with such a lower-ranking guy during WWII.
I haven't looking much into the Roselli-Baron connection as to when it started, how long it lasted, etc. I know that Roselli is cited many, many times in the negative biography about Robert Kennedy. If it turns out the Otto Skorzeny was actually QJ/WIN, then that opens the door to a Roselli-RFK-Skorzeny-Baron-Lemay nexus. Hope author Ralph Ganis comes through on May 29, 2018 with the Skorzeny Papers.
There was a picture of a Charles Baron in a military newsletter for a "Patron Four-Five Association" which had something to do with Naval Aviation and it said that he was at Coco Solo (Canal Zone) barracks around 1953. This group flew reconnaissance of Soviet Submarines at that time. Not sure whether this would be another, unrelated Charles Baron. For this newsletter, this Charles Baron provided only a 1953 photo even though he was a new member of the group in 2002. This drew the attention of the newsletter edits. He hinted that Charles Baron might not have wanted a current photo published. This would fit with a Mafia attitude.
All of this timing would put Charles Baron in the Illinois National Guard around the time when General Julius Klein and General Kenneth Buchanan were there. And I feel certain that Klein and Buchanan were involved with the Germans, Dodd and the assassination. Would General Charles Baron have been a link between Klien, Roselli, Lemay, Lansky, etc. etc? (Let's not even mention Clint Murchison and his friend Jimmy Hoffa). Also, this group was hanging out at White Sands, New Mexico in 1964. This could link them to the Operation Paperclip command in that area.
The American Legion National Security Commission sounds exactly like a group which would support the murder of a President they didn't like. Sounds a lot like "the American Security Council" which was the same type of entity and which has been suspected by many, including Dr. Jeffrey Caufield.
I'm so glad you put this bug in my ear. By the way, just saw a plug for a new TrineDay book on Deep Politics Forum. I just completed the scanning phase for the 720 page book written in German by Ambassador Wilhelm Grewe. This book could hold some dynamite information about JFK and German foreign policy in 1963.
Jim Lateer
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1136/miusa1942d_066272-01049?pid=119132&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1136/miusa1942d_066272-01049?pid=119132&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1136%26h%3D119132%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DMdP189%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=MdP189&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true%26h%3D119132%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DMdP189%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=MdP189&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
Mr. Millegan: The above article states that a syndicate headed by Charles Baron of Chicago lost $9 Million on the takeover of their casino by Castro as of 1960.
Jim Lateer
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/618...cessSource
Baron was the lead investor in 1957 for the new Hotel Tropicana in Las Vegas. Listed are his associates, no doubt gangsters. It also mentions that he had just sold his car dealership in Chicago and put the money into the Tropicana. Pretty good deal, I'm sure. The Tropicana was a major deal.
Jim Lateer
http://online.sfsu.edu/hl/g.BootlegBooze...egion.html
Baron's friend Abe Kaplan, apparently an infamous bootlegger in his own right and investor in the Tropicana. No doubt a cohort of Jimmy Hoffa, J. Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchison, and an enemy of Robert F. Kennedy.
How did General Lemay get involved with these types of people?
Another investor was a famous celebrity Morton Downey. Very big deal
Jim Lateer
Mr. Millegan:
A final thought about the Charles Baron issue. It seems like the nucleus of the JFK plotters traced back to 1934-1935. This would include the following:
Senator Thomas Dodd-FBI in 1935, later Nuremberg prosecutor.
Congressman John W. McCormack-HUAC chairman in 1934.
J. Edgar Hoover-FBI in 1934-1935.
Father Joseph Cronin-FBI connected in 1930's 1940's.
Father Edmund Walsh-Govt Connected anti-Communist from 1924 on.
Guy Banister-FBI Chicago
Congressman Charles Kersten-Lived in Washington w/right wing ties in 1935, McCarthy Mentor
General Julius Klein-Friends with Dodd who was in FBI in 1934, Ill Natl Guard, German PR Man
General Kenneth Buchanan-Ill National Guard in "Riot control" in the 1930's.
General George C. Marshall-Ill Nat. Guard 1933-1936 in "riot control"
Gen. Douglas MacArthur-Putting down the "commie Bonus Marchers" in 1933, assigned Marshall to Ill Nat Gd.
Charles Baron-Illinois National Guard and mob connections, began military service 1938 (in Ill Nat Guard ?).
Do you care if I post the Charles Baron research on Deep Politics Forum?
Jim Lateer
Kris Millegan: Feel free...
Per Kris Millegan:
(1) Johnny Rosselli, just prior to his demise, confided to his long-time attorney Tom Wadden that he had been involved in planning the assassination of President Kennedy.
(2) One of Rosselli's closest friends throughout his life was Chicago gangster Charles "Babe" Baron. Baron, suspected of involvement in at least two Depression-era murders, worked in Meyer Lansky-owned Cuban casinos, AND was a Brigadier General in the Illinois National Guard. In 1963, Baron was apparently on active military duty at the Pentagon. (Your tax dollars at work...)
(3) The HSCA discovered (through an interview with Tony Zoppi) that one of Baron's close friends was Gen. Curtis Lemay. An investigator found that Baron was visiting Lemay the very week that they had spoken to Zoppi.
(4) Lemay fudged his post-assassination travel itinerary to his biographer, Thomas Coffey, claiming that he had to rush to arrive in Washington in time for the funeral, when Air Force records make it clear that he arrived about 7:30 PM on the evening of the assassination. In time to be seen later that evening by Paul O'Conner in the Bethesda morgue. Where he seemingly had no official reason to be...
This story can be expanded a bit (sources available upon request). It proves nothing. It is, I submit, a very provocative, intersting collection of information, worthy of further examination. One should juxtapose it with some of Lemay's opinions about the Kennedy administration that were expressed in oral history interviews he gave during the 70's and 80's, in which he really "cut loose" about the danger he believed these men posed.
Mr. Millegan: (from James Lateer)
I am continuing to rack my brain about your clue about Charles Baron, Johnny Roselli and the JFK case. Attached is an interesting link about a pistol with some information on Baron. On ancestry.com I found a Jewish soldier in Chicago by the name of Charles Baron. Of course, General Julius Klein of Chicago was the head of the Jewish War Veterans and was a General in the Illinois National Guard in this era.
The more I read about Whitey Bulger, Johnny Roselli, John W. McCormack, Harry S. Truman and the Kennedy's, the more it seems like there wasn't a clear dividing line between the criminal element and the US Government.
It is noteworthy that according to Bornschein (in Gestopochef Heinrich Muller), when Juan Peron was deposed in 1955-1956, four Nazis including Muller fled from Argentina to Cuba and, according to the author, were protected by Castro. Of course this would be difficult since Castro did not take power until 1959. If Muller was in Cuba and working with the Mafia, Batista and Castro, (at any time) this puts him in the middle of that big mess. That would also include Antonio Veciana, Carlos Prio Socarras and the Cubans, etc. etc.
One of the wild cards in this scenario is the involvement of Curtis LeMay and Charles Baron. The only way that LeMay and this gangster could have been friends would be if they had been somehow acquainted before World War II. Possibly going to the same high school or something like that. Or maybe being related by marriage. The Air Force image of people like General Lauris Norstad or Eddie Warburg doesn't seem to comport with organized crime connnections.
To properly analyze that, someone would have to read up on LeMay and his history. I personally don't think LeMay was a JFK plotter, since he is never mentioned as Nazi-friendly as were General Patton or General Edwin Walker. But he was at the JFK autopsy (apparently).
It looks like Operation Mongoose was part of the JFK solution whether you come at it from the Roselli angle or the Heinrich Muller angle, or the Otto Skorzeny (Ralph Ganis) angle, or from the Ultimate Sacrifice (Waldron-Hartmann) "C-Day" angle.
Will continue to work on this.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail...n-38?text=
Jim Lateer
From: Kris Millegan:
Operation Mongoose was the main vehicle for much of the workings of the JFK Assassination, along with Division 5. The overarching mechanism is the Secret Societal System. The hit is the easy part, the get-away was professional, the scenario and cover-up are the heavy lifts. MHO.
Mr. Millegan:
Found a newspaper article which said General Lemay and Charles Baron were Air Force buddies and were together socially in 1971. Also, Baron was a member of the American Legion National Security Commission in 1964. I have never heard of that organization before. It was apparently founded in 1918 or 1919. It may have had some connection to the White Sands Missile operation. There is no info on Charles Baron being in the Air Force that I have yet found, although the Air Force was not separate until 1947.
Charles Baron was also a "greeter" for the Las Vegas Sands and was described as the connection of the Las Vegas Sands in Chicago. He lived at the Bay Meadows Turf Club, apparently in Las Vegas where he was visited (in Las Vegas) in 1971 by LeMay.
He had the Ford Dealership in Chicago in 1954 and was mentioned in the Senate Investigation in 1951 as being a friend of John Roselli at that time. His active military career lasted at least from 1938 to 1952 and was described as being a Brigadier-General of the Illinois National Guard when attending the 46th meeting ot the American Legion National Security Commission annual reunion in New Mexico in 1964.
I don't know how he would be still in the Illinois National Guard and at the same time living in Las Vegas in 1971. I'm not sure when the Ford Dealership in Chicago ended with respect to Baron. I was able to get into the family tree of General Lemay and he was not related to Charles Baron as far as I can tell. I found no ancestry information which definitively involves the Charles Baron we are dealing with.
Charles Baron was in the Illinois National Guard beginning in 1952, but was on active military status from 1938 to 1951. I don't necessarily buy the idea that General Lemay and Baron were "Air Force buddies" as was reported in the Las Vegas newspaper. No clue about why they would be social friends. I probably need to know a lot more about Lemay. On the surface, he looks like an All-American midwestern guy from a modest family who went to Ohio State. We know that during WWII Lemay was involved with the Strategic Bombing campaign which had to take up all of his attention. Ohio State does not mix with Mafia. Full-time Strategic Bombing does not mix with General Lemnizter-type cloak and dagger stuff in WWII. Or OSS or Allen Dulles or Operation Paperclip.
If Charles Baron had served in any high profile role in World War II as did Lemay, there would be some info about it. He went from a Captain in 1941 to a Lieutenant-Colonel in 1946. He was a Lieutenant Colonel in 1951. Not sure why a famous General like Lemay would be friendly with such a lower-ranking guy during WWII.
I haven't looking much into the Roselli-Baron connection as to when it started, how long it lasted, etc. I know that Roselli is cited many, many times in the negative biography about Robert Kennedy. If it turns out the Otto Skorzeny was actually QJ/WIN, then that opens the door to a Roselli-RFK-Skorzeny-Baron-Lemay nexus. Hope author Ralph Ganis comes through on May 29, 2018 with the Skorzeny Papers.
There was a picture of a Charles Baron in a military newsletter for a "Patron Four-Five Association" which had something to do with Naval Aviation and it said that he was at Coco Solo (Canal Zone) barracks around 1953. This group flew reconnaissance of Soviet Submarines at that time. Not sure whether this would be another, unrelated Charles Baron. For this newsletter, this Charles Baron provided only a 1953 photo even though he was a new member of the group in 2002. This drew the attention of the newsletter edits. He hinted that Charles Baron might not have wanted a current photo published. This would fit with a Mafia attitude.
All of this timing would put Charles Baron in the Illinois National Guard around the time when General Julius Klein and General Kenneth Buchanan were there. And I feel certain that Klein and Buchanan were involved with the Germans, Dodd and the assassination. Would General Charles Baron have been a link between Klien, Roselli, Lemay, Lansky, etc. etc? (Let's not even mention Clint Murchison and his friend Jimmy Hoffa). Also, this group was hanging out at White Sands, New Mexico in 1964. This could link them to the Operation Paperclip command in that area.
The American Legion National Security Commission sounds exactly like a group which would support the murder of a President they didn't like. Sounds a lot like "the American Security Council" which was the same type of entity and which has been suspected by many, including Dr. Jeffrey Caufield.
I'm so glad you put this bug in my ear. By the way, just saw a plug for a new TrineDay book on Deep Politics Forum. I just completed the scanning phase for the 720 page book written in German by Ambassador Wilhelm Grewe. This book could hold some dynamite information about JFK and German foreign policy in 1963.
Jim Lateer
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1136/miusa1942d_066272-01049?pid=119132&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1136/miusa1942d_066272-01049?pid=119132&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1136%26h%3D119132%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DMdP189%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=MdP189&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true%26h%3D119132%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DMdP189%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=MdP189&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
Mr. Millegan: The above article states that a syndicate headed by Charles Baron of Chicago lost $9 Million on the takeover of their casino by Castro as of 1960.
Jim Lateer
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/618...cessSource
Baron was the lead investor in 1957 for the new Hotel Tropicana in Las Vegas. Listed are his associates, no doubt gangsters. It also mentions that he had just sold his car dealership in Chicago and put the money into the Tropicana. Pretty good deal, I'm sure. The Tropicana was a major deal.
Jim Lateer
http://online.sfsu.edu/hl/g.BootlegBooze...egion.html
Baron's friend Abe Kaplan, apparently an infamous bootlegger in his own right and investor in the Tropicana. No doubt a cohort of Jimmy Hoffa, J. Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchison, and an enemy of Robert F. Kennedy.
How did General Lemay get involved with these types of people?
Another investor was a famous celebrity Morton Downey. Very big deal
Jim Lateer
Mr. Millegan:
A final thought about the Charles Baron issue. It seems like the nucleus of the JFK plotters traced back to 1934-1935. This would include the following:
Senator Thomas Dodd-FBI in 1935, later Nuremberg prosecutor.
Congressman John W. McCormack-HUAC chairman in 1934.
J. Edgar Hoover-FBI in 1934-1935.
Father Joseph Cronin-FBI connected in 1930's 1940's.
Father Edmund Walsh-Govt Connected anti-Communist from 1924 on.
Guy Banister-FBI Chicago
Congressman Charles Kersten-Lived in Washington w/right wing ties in 1935, McCarthy Mentor
General Julius Klein-Friends with Dodd who was in FBI in 1934, Ill Natl Guard, German PR Man
General Kenneth Buchanan-Ill National Guard in "Riot control" in the 1930's.
General George C. Marshall-Ill Nat. Guard 1933-1936 in "riot control"
Gen. Douglas MacArthur-Putting down the "commie Bonus Marchers" in 1933, assigned Marshall to Ill Nat Gd.
Charles Baron-Illinois National Guard and mob connections, began military service 1938 (in Ill Nat Guard ?).
Do you care if I post the Charles Baron research on Deep Politics Forum?
Jim Lateer
Kris Millegan: Feel free...