26-09-2018, 05:49 PM
Thanks Milo...
So, how can all these people take the same gun?
Callaway takes it, Scoggins takes it, Croy takes it…
JASPER CLAYTON BUTLER
Direct conflict with Callaway…
Mr. CALLAWAY. I picked the gun up and laid it on the hood of the squad car, and then someone put it in the front seat of the squad car. Then after I helped load Officer Tippit in the ambulance, I got the gun out of the car and told this cabdriver, I said, "You saw the guy didn't you?" He said, yes.
I said, "If he is going up Jefferson, he can't be very far. Let's see if we can find him." So I went with Scoggins in the taxicab, went up to 10th, Crawford, from Crawford up to Jefferson, and down Jefferson to Beckley. And we turned on Beckley. If we had kept going up Jefferson, we probably--there is a good chance we would have seen him, because he was headed right towards the Texas Theatre. But then we circled around several blocks, and ended up coming back to where it happened.
Royal Blue Coat?? that would have been Tippit's from this car? Croy? No one mentions or photographs a coat anywhere near the Tippit scene... ??
Large White man? Bowley? His Affidavitstates:
I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm. Severalpeople were at the scene. When I got there the first thing I did was try tohelp the officer. He appeared beyond help to me. A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated he didn't know how to operate it.
Butler would know how to work a radio no? So this cant be him
I know how and took the radio from him. I said, "Hello, operator. A policeofficer has been shot here." The dispatcher asked for the location. Ifound out the location and told the dispatcher what it was. A few minutes lateran ambulance came to the scene. I help[B]ed load the officer onto the stretcherand into the ambulance. As [/B]we picked the officer up, I noticed his pistollaying on the ground under him. Someone picked the pistol up and laid it on thehood of the squad car. When the ambulance left, I took the gun and put itinside the squad car. A man took the pistol out and said, "Let's catchhim." He opened the cylinder, and I saw that no rounds in it had beenfired. This man then took the pistol with him and got into a cab and drove off.
And then we have CROY again claiming he took Tippit's gun... with no conclusion other than "A" pistol arrives at Methodist.. Butler would have no way of knowing it was the same pistol or not...
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember what his name was?
Mr. CROY. No; I didn't get his name. There was a private detective agency. There was a report that a cabdriver had picked up Tippit's gun and had left, presumably. They don't know whether he was the one that had shot Tippit, or whether the man, I think it was he, brought someone out there, something. Anyway, he saw it and he picked up Tippit's gun and attempted to give chase or something like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. There was a detective who was an eyewitness?
Mr. CROY. No; he brought the taxi driver back to the scene.
Mr. GRIFFIN. But the taxicab driver was an eyewitness?
Mr. CROY. As far as I know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you talk to the taxicab driver?
Mr. CROY. No; I took Tippit's gunand several other officers came up, and I turned him over to them and they questioned him.
WCXII p202
We do know it did not go in the Ambulance with Tippit...
Milo - have you been able to find out in the DPD statements who went to Methodist?
15. CSS Form (Crime Scene Section), by R. A. Davenport. Original form concerning a Smith & Wesson SN Special, (Original), 11/22/63. 00002560 1 page 09 01 015 (no scan)
So, how can all these people take the same gun?
Callaway takes it, Scoggins takes it, Croy takes it…
JASPER CLAYTON BUTLER
Direct conflict with Callaway…
Mr. CALLAWAY. I picked the gun up and laid it on the hood of the squad car, and then someone put it in the front seat of the squad car. Then after I helped load Officer Tippit in the ambulance, I got the gun out of the car and told this cabdriver, I said, "You saw the guy didn't you?" He said, yes.
I said, "If he is going up Jefferson, he can't be very far. Let's see if we can find him." So I went with Scoggins in the taxicab, went up to 10th, Crawford, from Crawford up to Jefferson, and down Jefferson to Beckley. And we turned on Beckley. If we had kept going up Jefferson, we probably--there is a good chance we would have seen him, because he was headed right towards the Texas Theatre. But then we circled around several blocks, and ended up coming back to where it happened.
Royal Blue Coat?? that would have been Tippit's from this car? Croy? No one mentions or photographs a coat anywhere near the Tippit scene... ??
Large White man? Bowley? His Affidavitstates:
I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm. Severalpeople were at the scene. When I got there the first thing I did was try tohelp the officer. He appeared beyond help to me. A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated he didn't know how to operate it.
Butler would know how to work a radio no? So this cant be him
I know how and took the radio from him. I said, "Hello, operator. A policeofficer has been shot here." The dispatcher asked for the location. Ifound out the location and told the dispatcher what it was. A few minutes lateran ambulance came to the scene. I help[B]ed load the officer onto the stretcherand into the ambulance. As [/B]we picked the officer up, I noticed his pistollaying on the ground under him. Someone picked the pistol up and laid it on thehood of the squad car. When the ambulance left, I took the gun and put itinside the squad car. A man took the pistol out and said, "Let's catchhim." He opened the cylinder, and I saw that no rounds in it had beenfired. This man then took the pistol with him and got into a cab and drove off.
And then we have CROY again claiming he took Tippit's gun... with no conclusion other than "A" pistol arrives at Methodist.. Butler would have no way of knowing it was the same pistol or not...
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember what his name was?
Mr. CROY. No; I didn't get his name. There was a private detective agency. There was a report that a cabdriver had picked up Tippit's gun and had left, presumably. They don't know whether he was the one that had shot Tippit, or whether the man, I think it was he, brought someone out there, something. Anyway, he saw it and he picked up Tippit's gun and attempted to give chase or something like that.
Mr. GRIFFIN. There was a detective who was an eyewitness?
Mr. CROY. No; he brought the taxi driver back to the scene.
Mr. GRIFFIN. But the taxicab driver was an eyewitness?
Mr. CROY. As far as I know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you talk to the taxicab driver?
Mr. CROY. No; I took Tippit's gunand several other officers came up, and I turned him over to them and they questioned him.
WCXII p202
We do know it did not go in the Ambulance with Tippit...
Milo - have you been able to find out in the DPD statements who went to Methodist?
15. CSS Form (Crime Scene Section), by R. A. Davenport. Original form concerning a Smith & Wesson SN Special, (Original), 11/22/63. 00002560 1 page 09 01 015 (no scan)
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in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter