Christopher Bollyn on 9/11: Israel Did It

[Lauren Johnson]

[quote=Lauren Johnson]CB's research deserves more attention as uncomfortable as conclusions might be for many.

We've been 'here' before. Bollyn is correct that some people, some private or public intelligence people/assets/companies/what-have-you from Israel had advance knowledge and played some part in the events; he is WRONG [and I think grossly so] in jumping to the conclusion that therefore Israel or some Israelis were the masterminds behind the events of 911! Saudi Arabia also played some role, as did Pakistan, as did UAE, and others from outside the USA - but it was U.S. Citizens - some of them in very high political/military/intelligence/corporate/finance/'law-enforcement' positions who thought up, planned, and carried off 9-11-01 using, yes, some outsourced foreign operatives. I'd not be surprised to find out MI6 also played a small role [or not so small]. A much more balanced and correct view would be Ryan's 'ANOTHER NINETEEN' - naming names and giving their connections to 911 in great detail...and also mentioning, in passing, the involvement of some Israelis, Saudis, Pakistanis, etc...... Bollyn is the type that still believes in the Protocol of the Elders of Zion [an invention of the Russian secret police from about 100 years ago]. Israeli government is no angel - in fact now I'd call it a full-on Apartheid neo-fascist government, but so is the USA in slightly different ways now. They often help one another out at the deep-spook level, but 911 was an INSIDE job and Bollyn's work has some value, but can lead those without a wider and clearer view to be misled - and dangerously so....letting the real culprits off the hook!!! There are many such books re: JFK Assassination - that make some contributions to toward events that really happened and persons who really participated, but drawing the wrong conclusion about who the real sponsors were. Some are done out of naivete and some are done to misdirect. Did Israel control the SAC? Control the war games going on on 911? write and proffer the [un]Patriot Act? Develop and turn on COG on 911? Stage the Anthrax attacks? Remove all the steel and other crime-site clues?...and one can go on and on and on. Chaney nor Rumsfeld nor most of the other big players are Jewish.....though it would also be wrong (but closer to accurate) to call it a 'right-wing Christian Coup'. These are fascist types who had their own reasons for what they did - one operation among MANY. The international right-wing Gladio-types at the top levels knows few national boundaries - only shared goals. That said, most [>>97% of those important persons involved in 911] were born, bred, lived, and live still in the U.S...... One has to keep the proper perspective and look at the the wider picture or one gets lost and/or misled.

Peter, you make several points in your response that I agree with and some that need further response. It will take more than one post.

First, I think we agree on how to approach 9/11 and other massive black ops: there the masterminds or to use another term, the sponsors, the ones without whose approval the operation could not happen. Then there are the facilitators who might also serve as false sponsors. And finally there are the mechanics who operate in compartmentalized basis.

So, in the case of the JFK assassination, there may have been some unwitting mechanics who were told they were part of an training operation that went live. That is one theory I've read. I would imagine in the case of 9/11 there were many of these people.

Second, I suspect we agree that the really big black ops are intended to transform culture as part of a long term plan. You will recall the Karl Rove quote about being history's actors and his sneering view of the "reality based community." One of my favorite quotes by Edward Said from Culture and Imperialism raises the question of power relationships: to what extent is history the interaction of chaotic forces and its opposite as moving toward an envisaged telos.

For the enterprise of empire depends upon the idea of having an empire... and all kinds of preparations are made for it within a culture; then in turn imperialism acquires a kind of coherence, a set of experiences, and a presence of ruler and ruled alike within the culture.

Third, there an overall power center that creates history at the macro level and increasingly at the smaller scale as well. This means that the function of sponsorship exists apparently in competition but ultimately answers to one power center. Apparently independent power centers exist in a coordinated arrangement. I have concluded this from reading Carroll Quigley, Antony Sutton, Guido Preparata, and the Docherty/McGregor books on WWI.

I'll stop here for now. More later. I agree that "Israel did it" is much too simple. I do think that Bollyn is raising important points and deserves attention. At least more than what I have been willing to give it in the past. I hope you took the time to watch to the whole video.