29-03-2023, 12:19 AM
(This post was last modified: 30-03-2023, 03:40 PM by Brian Doyle.)
The Prayer Man supporters have distorted the true meaning of the notes from the 3pm interrogation on the day of the assassination...If you study the notes of Captain Fritz, James Bookhout, and James Hosty all three sets of notes bear a similar commonality...All three sets of notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...All three sets of notes then take Oswald down to the 1st Floor to eat his lunch...And finally all three sets of notes take Oswald outside on the front steps...This basic framework is discernable in all three sets of notes...
It is possible to decipher the deception in those notes by following what I have been posting in these threads...Mind you it is important to use the template of Oswald telling the 3pm interrogators that he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and that statement being removed from the notes...
Here is Captain Fritz's notes:
"Claims 2nd Floor Coke When Officer Came In
To First Floor Had Lunch
Out With Bill Shelley In Front"
Here are Bookhout's Notes:
"Oswald Stated That On November 22, 1963, At The Time Of The Search of The Texas School Book Depository Building By Dallas Police Officers, He was On The Second Floor Of Said Building, Having Just Purchased A Coca-Cola From The Soft Drink Machine, At Which Time A Police Officer Came In To The Room With Pistol Drawn And Asked Him If He Worked there. Mr Truly Was Present And Verified That He Was An Employee And The Police Officer Thereafter Left the Room And Continued Through The Building. Oswald Stated That He Took His Coke Down To The First Floor And Stood Around And Had Lunch In The Employee's Lunch Room. He Thereafter Went Outside And Stood Around For Five Or Ten Minutes With Foreman Bill Shelley."
And here are Hosty's Notes:
"O Stated He Was Present For Work At TBD On The Morning Of 11/22 And At Noon Went To Lunch. He Went To 2nd Floor To Get A Coca-Cola To Eat With Lunch And Returned To First Floor To Eat Lunch. Then Went Outside To Watch P Parade."
Any examination of the Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty Notes will show they all have the same framework of going from the 2nd Floor Lunch Room to the First Floor and then outside...
It is important to note my previous examination of Captain Fritz's testimony in the other threads because I have shown that Fritz was the more forthcoming and accurate...Fritz came right out and told the Commission that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room eating his lunch during the assassination so therefore Fritz's notes of the 3pm interrogation are the more credible...And because of that we see that Fritz has calibrated his account with a time mark of being when Baker confronted Oswald 90 seconds after the shots...If we look at Bookhout's notes he also confirmed that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room with a Coca-Cola when Baker encountered him...Both Fritz and Bookhout confirm that their notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter and therefore confirm, by inference, that the question of where Oswald was during the assassination has been removed before it...Also, please take note that Bookhout's version is clearest that Oswald went outside long after the Lunch Room Encounter...
Hosty's Notes are more undetailed however they still follow the exact pattern of 2nd Floor Lunch Room, down to 1st Floor to eat Lunch, and then outside...Hosty's notes omit the time mark Fritz and Bookhout provided for the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...Since both Fritz and Bookhout made clear that Baker's confrontation happened at 90 seconds after the shots, and Hosty's notes possess the exact same framework as Fritz's and Bookhout's, we have to assume that the "Went To 2nd Floor To Get A Coca-Cola To Eat With Lunch" portion of Hosty's notes is also during the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...There's a very simple detective scale to apply here...Fritz was openly defiant in his admitting the real location of Oswald and Hosty was concealing...We have to go with Fritz's and Bookhout's given times and therefore assume that Hosty, since he witnessed the exact same interview, had to be saying Oswald was confronted by Baker in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room 90 seconds after the shots...With this known, we then examine that all three sets of notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots and therefore omit the part where they asked Oswald where he was during the assassination...And since Hosty's notes are identical in chronology as Fritz's and Bookhout's therefore "Went outside to watch Presidential Parade" can't be any earlier than 4 minutes after the shots and therefore can't be used to say Oswald was Prayer Man...It is very obvious that what we have here is evidence, by omission, that Oswald told the 3pm interrogation that he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and the interrogators removed it from their notes...It is also evidence that "Went Outside To Watch Presidential Parade" cannot possibly suggest Oswald was Prayer Man...
It would be irresponsible to not mention Hosty telling Nigel Turner that Oswald said he was in the Lunch Room during the assassination...Once you see Hosty say this to Nigel Turner you realize the only place that would fit in to Hosty's Notes would be after getting the Coca-Cola and returning to the 1st Floor to eat lunch...But that doesn't make sense because both Fritz and Bookhout were clear that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the Lunch Room Encounter...I guess you could say that Oswald was eating lunch in the Domino Room before he went up to get the Coke and that was when he was on the 1st Floor during the shooting, but to make that happen you have to ignore both Sarah Stanton and Carolyn Arnold who heard or saw Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...You would have to ignore Captain Fritz who made it very clear that Oswald told him he was eating lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...You would have to ignore Fritz again when he refused to say Oswald "Went Up" to get the Coca-Cola...And you would have to ignore Jack Dougherty's very precise claim that Oswald was up eating his lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room while he ate his lunch down below in the Domino Room...It becomes more than clear here that the reason why Hosty has limited the details in his notes is because he is avoiding committing to these incriminating timings...It is also why Hosty omits Oswald saying he was in the Lunch Room during the assassination in those same notes...All said, Hosty is the least reliable and most deceptive...And he is also the main witness upon whom Kamp hangs his entire thesis...
It is possible to decipher the deception in those notes by following what I have been posting in these threads...Mind you it is important to use the template of Oswald telling the 3pm interrogators that he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and that statement being removed from the notes...
Here is Captain Fritz's notes:
"Claims 2nd Floor Coke When Officer Came In
To First Floor Had Lunch
Out With Bill Shelley In Front"
Here are Bookhout's Notes:
"Oswald Stated That On November 22, 1963, At The Time Of The Search of The Texas School Book Depository Building By Dallas Police Officers, He was On The Second Floor Of Said Building, Having Just Purchased A Coca-Cola From The Soft Drink Machine, At Which Time A Police Officer Came In To The Room With Pistol Drawn And Asked Him If He Worked there. Mr Truly Was Present And Verified That He Was An Employee And The Police Officer Thereafter Left the Room And Continued Through The Building. Oswald Stated That He Took His Coke Down To The First Floor And Stood Around And Had Lunch In The Employee's Lunch Room. He Thereafter Went Outside And Stood Around For Five Or Ten Minutes With Foreman Bill Shelley."
And here are Hosty's Notes:
"O Stated He Was Present For Work At TBD On The Morning Of 11/22 And At Noon Went To Lunch. He Went To 2nd Floor To Get A Coca-Cola To Eat With Lunch And Returned To First Floor To Eat Lunch. Then Went Outside To Watch P Parade."
Any examination of the Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty Notes will show they all have the same framework of going from the 2nd Floor Lunch Room to the First Floor and then outside...
It is important to note my previous examination of Captain Fritz's testimony in the other threads because I have shown that Fritz was the more forthcoming and accurate...Fritz came right out and told the Commission that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room eating his lunch during the assassination so therefore Fritz's notes of the 3pm interrogation are the more credible...And because of that we see that Fritz has calibrated his account with a time mark of being when Baker confronted Oswald 90 seconds after the shots...If we look at Bookhout's notes he also confirmed that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room with a Coca-Cola when Baker encountered him...Both Fritz and Bookhout confirm that their notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter and therefore confirm, by inference, that the question of where Oswald was during the assassination has been removed before it...Also, please take note that Bookhout's version is clearest that Oswald went outside long after the Lunch Room Encounter...
Hosty's Notes are more undetailed however they still follow the exact pattern of 2nd Floor Lunch Room, down to 1st Floor to eat Lunch, and then outside...Hosty's notes omit the time mark Fritz and Bookhout provided for the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...Since both Fritz and Bookhout made clear that Baker's confrontation happened at 90 seconds after the shots, and Hosty's notes possess the exact same framework as Fritz's and Bookhout's, we have to assume that the "Went To 2nd Floor To Get A Coca-Cola To Eat With Lunch" portion of Hosty's notes is also during the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots...There's a very simple detective scale to apply here...Fritz was openly defiant in his admitting the real location of Oswald and Hosty was concealing...We have to go with Fritz's and Bookhout's given times and therefore assume that Hosty, since he witnessed the exact same interview, had to be saying Oswald was confronted by Baker in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room 90 seconds after the shots...With this known, we then examine that all three sets of notes start at the Lunch Room Encounter 90 seconds after the shots and therefore omit the part where they asked Oswald where he was during the assassination...And since Hosty's notes are identical in chronology as Fritz's and Bookhout's therefore "Went outside to watch Presidential Parade" can't be any earlier than 4 minutes after the shots and therefore can't be used to say Oswald was Prayer Man...It is very obvious that what we have here is evidence, by omission, that Oswald told the 3pm interrogation that he was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and the interrogators removed it from their notes...It is also evidence that "Went Outside To Watch Presidential Parade" cannot possibly suggest Oswald was Prayer Man...
It would be irresponsible to not mention Hosty telling Nigel Turner that Oswald said he was in the Lunch Room during the assassination...Once you see Hosty say this to Nigel Turner you realize the only place that would fit in to Hosty's Notes would be after getting the Coca-Cola and returning to the 1st Floor to eat lunch...But that doesn't make sense because both Fritz and Bookhout were clear that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the Lunch Room Encounter...I guess you could say that Oswald was eating lunch in the Domino Room before he went up to get the Coke and that was when he was on the 1st Floor during the shooting, but to make that happen you have to ignore both Sarah Stanton and Carolyn Arnold who heard or saw Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...You would have to ignore Captain Fritz who made it very clear that Oswald told him he was eating lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...You would have to ignore Fritz again when he refused to say Oswald "Went Up" to get the Coca-Cola...And you would have to ignore Jack Dougherty's very precise claim that Oswald was up eating his lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room while he ate his lunch down below in the Domino Room...It becomes more than clear here that the reason why Hosty has limited the details in his notes is because he is avoiding committing to these incriminating timings...It is also why Hosty omits Oswald saying he was in the Lunch Room during the assassination in those same notes...All said, Hosty is the least reliable and most deceptive...And he is also the main witness upon whom Kamp hangs his entire thesis...