08-04-2010, 08:05 PM
NOTE: As will be apparent, this is directed at harassment on The Ed Forum.
JIM REPLIES TO SOME OF THOSE WHO COMMENT HERE THE MOST
There appears to be an inverse relationship between negative comments
and positive knowledge about Judyth by participants on this forum. Those
who are the most negative know the least about her, which includes some
who pose as though they were most knowing--where virtually every post is
greeted with cheers from those least qualified to judge. Barb has indeed
been doing "a fantastic job" if obfuscation is the goal. The one who, in my
view, knows the most about all of this is Ed Haslam, who has elaborated on
the context indispensable for understanding what was going on in the city
at the time, which had more to do with an extraordinary cancer-research
project than it did with the personal relationship between Judyth and Lee.
I find it unsurprising in the extreme that several of Judyth's most severe
critics have been shown to be in collusion with John McAdams, whom no
reasonable person dedicated to discovering the truth about the death of
JFK would ever consider taking seriously in their wildest dreams. Thus,
the fact that they have joined together in attempts to discredit her is, to
my mind, indispensable to appreciating their role on this thread. And my
occasional misstatements about what they are about are trifles compared
to the gross abuse to which they are subjecting Judyth, who has much
more to tell us regarding some of the murkiest aspects of assassination
research, events which were taking place in New Orleans during 1963.
This thread has exposed major problems in the HARVEY & LEE scenario
as well as explaining quite a lot about the relationship between Judyth
and Lee, who, as Ed Haslam has explained, were collaborating with David
Ferrie and Dr. Mary Sherman in a project to develop an anti-cancer-virus
cure that became crucial when it was discovered that the polio vaccine
being use to inoculate around 100,000,000 children and young adults
was contaminated with the SV-40 virus, derived from the incubation of
batches for study in the kidneys of Rhesus monkeys. It is a fascinating
and remarkable story, which I am only now beginning to piece together.
I therefore believe that some criticisms of Judyth have arisen because I
myself have been slow to appreciate what was going on and that their
relationship appears to have been arranged in order for Lee to assist
Judyth with the practical aspects of life in relation to the threats and
promises of the New Orleans environment, where many dark secrets
and covert activities linked Guy Banister, Clay Shaw, Carlos Marcello,
and Lee Oswald together in anti-Castro activities, while Judyth was in
collaboration with David Ferrie, Mary Sherman, and Alton Ochsner to
fix vaccines, a cure for polio that was more dangerous than the disease.
For those who want to appreciate what Judyth story is actually all about,
let me recommend Ed Haslam's book, DR. MARY'S MONKEY, in which he
offers a fascinating exploration of the circumstances that brought Judyth,
Lee, Ferrie, Sherman, and Ochsner together in one of the most remarkable
covert operations in American medical history. Even simpler, tune in to
revereradio.net this Friday from 5-7 PM/CT and listen to Jesse Ventura for
the first hour and Ed Haslam the second. You may be as stunned as I to
learn how much more was involved in the relationship between Lee and
Judyth than has been presented on this very thread, where the personal
has overshadowed the scientific. Research on an unexpected problem in
the "cure for polio" was the crucial element that we have been missing.
[quote name='Glenn Viklund' post='189189' date='Apr 8 2010, 07:47 AM']
[quote name='Mike Williams' post='189170' date='Apr 8 2010, 03:41 AM']
[quote name='Pamela McElwain-Brown' post='189164' date='Apr 7 2010, 08:21 PM']
MEDEC-ZOA is no mystery ... and no file or designation regarding
Judyth for any special or secret project.
Barb :-)
Another example of Barb's trying to scarf up a bit of information and present her opinion as 'fact'.[/quote]
Which of course is just Pamelas opinion as well.
Barb,
I commend you. How you manage to continue to even deal with such lunacy is beyond me. I have read many of your writings and have always thought well of your work, but never so much as now. Some people never learn that the first thing to do when one finds oneself in a hole, is quit digging. I must say I am enjoying this beating you are dishing out very much!
Mike
[/quote]
Mike
Very well said and I certainly agree with you.
It is nothing less than amazing that Barb somehow repeatedly finds the energy to argue with these people. Over here we have this old saying "don't throw pearls to the pigs" and I don't think I need to elaborate on this.
Barb is doing a fantastic job, real research with actual facts. Again and again, and all she gets back from Judyfetz is demeaning and derogatory BS. No answers, except "bad memory", "nit picking" and the usual, decade old, twisting, turning and bending.
Sum it up and there should be no doubts as to what Judyth is all about.
Best regards Mike,
Glenn
[/quote]
JIM REPLIES TO SOME OF THOSE WHO COMMENT HERE THE MOST
There appears to be an inverse relationship between negative comments
and positive knowledge about Judyth by participants on this forum. Those
who are the most negative know the least about her, which includes some
who pose as though they were most knowing--where virtually every post is
greeted with cheers from those least qualified to judge. Barb has indeed
been doing "a fantastic job" if obfuscation is the goal. The one who, in my
view, knows the most about all of this is Ed Haslam, who has elaborated on
the context indispensable for understanding what was going on in the city
at the time, which had more to do with an extraordinary cancer-research
project than it did with the personal relationship between Judyth and Lee.
I find it unsurprising in the extreme that several of Judyth's most severe
critics have been shown to be in collusion with John McAdams, whom no
reasonable person dedicated to discovering the truth about the death of
JFK would ever consider taking seriously in their wildest dreams. Thus,
the fact that they have joined together in attempts to discredit her is, to
my mind, indispensable to appreciating their role on this thread. And my
occasional misstatements about what they are about are trifles compared
to the gross abuse to which they are subjecting Judyth, who has much
more to tell us regarding some of the murkiest aspects of assassination
research, events which were taking place in New Orleans during 1963.
This thread has exposed major problems in the HARVEY & LEE scenario
as well as explaining quite a lot about the relationship between Judyth
and Lee, who, as Ed Haslam has explained, were collaborating with David
Ferrie and Dr. Mary Sherman in a project to develop an anti-cancer-virus
cure that became crucial when it was discovered that the polio vaccine
being use to inoculate around 100,000,000 children and young adults
was contaminated with the SV-40 virus, derived from the incubation of
batches for study in the kidneys of Rhesus monkeys. It is a fascinating
and remarkable story, which I am only now beginning to piece together.
I therefore believe that some criticisms of Judyth have arisen because I
myself have been slow to appreciate what was going on and that their
relationship appears to have been arranged in order for Lee to assist
Judyth with the practical aspects of life in relation to the threats and
promises of the New Orleans environment, where many dark secrets
and covert activities linked Guy Banister, Clay Shaw, Carlos Marcello,
and Lee Oswald together in anti-Castro activities, while Judyth was in
collaboration with David Ferrie, Mary Sherman, and Alton Ochsner to
fix vaccines, a cure for polio that was more dangerous than the disease.
For those who want to appreciate what Judyth story is actually all about,
let me recommend Ed Haslam's book, DR. MARY'S MONKEY, in which he
offers a fascinating exploration of the circumstances that brought Judyth,
Lee, Ferrie, Sherman, and Ochsner together in one of the most remarkable
covert operations in American medical history. Even simpler, tune in to
revereradio.net this Friday from 5-7 PM/CT and listen to Jesse Ventura for
the first hour and Ed Haslam the second. You may be as stunned as I to
learn how much more was involved in the relationship between Lee and
Judyth than has been presented on this very thread, where the personal
has overshadowed the scientific. Research on an unexpected problem in
the "cure for polio" was the crucial element that we have been missing.
[quote name='Glenn Viklund' post='189189' date='Apr 8 2010, 07:47 AM']
[quote name='Mike Williams' post='189170' date='Apr 8 2010, 03:41 AM']
[quote name='Pamela McElwain-Brown' post='189164' date='Apr 7 2010, 08:21 PM']
MEDEC-ZOA is no mystery ... and no file or designation regarding
Judyth for any special or secret project.
Barb :-)
Another example of Barb's trying to scarf up a bit of information and present her opinion as 'fact'.[/quote]
Which of course is just Pamelas opinion as well.
Barb,
I commend you. How you manage to continue to even deal with such lunacy is beyond me. I have read many of your writings and have always thought well of your work, but never so much as now. Some people never learn that the first thing to do when one finds oneself in a hole, is quit digging. I must say I am enjoying this beating you are dishing out very much!
Mike
[/quote]
Mike
Very well said and I certainly agree with you.
It is nothing less than amazing that Barb somehow repeatedly finds the energy to argue with these people. Over here we have this old saying "don't throw pearls to the pigs" and I don't think I need to elaborate on this.
Barb is doing a fantastic job, real research with actual facts. Again and again, and all she gets back from Judyfetz is demeaning and derogatory BS. No answers, except "bad memory", "nit picking" and the usual, decade old, twisting, turning and bending.
Sum it up and there should be no doubts as to what Judyth is all about.
Best regards Mike,
Glenn
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