JUDYTH VARY BAKER - IN HER OWN WORDS: Edited, With Commentary by Walt Brown, Ph.D

[Anthony Thorne]

Some members here might need to suppress a gag reflex at the subject, but Vince Palamara (over at the Ed Forum) has noticed that Walt Brown has a new series of ebooks coming out. To my eyes they look like a reordering of his Master Chronology on the JFK Assassination, but possibly he's added new material, introductions, updates or whatever.

This first volume, linked below, is a long commentary by Brown on Baker's writing. Walt frankly detests Baker's work and his method is to work through Baker's book (in this case ME AND LEE), reprint a long excerpt, then comment on what Baker has suggested. This leads to much head-scratching commentary as Brown straightforwardly shows that a lot of Baker's assertions are completely off the wall, to put things charitably. Half a page of Baker's book may lead to several pages of Brown pointing out which parts seem nuts, which sections have no evidence to support them, places where Baker states things that are contradicted elsewhere in her own book, and so on. The Kindle price is a bargain three bucks and the ebook is out next month. The price is probably right as the exercise isn't a pleasant one - in his Master Chronology Brown apologises to the reader for spending so long on Baker's work - but readers undecided of the merits of ME AND LEE will find Brown's response an interesting read.

https://www.amazon.com/Judyth-Vary-Baker...ext&sr=1-3

[Scott Kaiser]

Some members here might need to suppress a gag reflex at the subject, but Vince Palamara (over at the Ed Forum) has noticed that Walt Brown has a new series of ebooks coming out. To my eyes they look like a reordering of his Master Chronology on the JFK Assassination, but possibly he's added new material, introductions, updates or whatever.

This first volume, linked below, is a long commentary by Brown on Baker's writing. Walt frankly detests Baker's work and his method is to work through Baker's book (in this case ME AND LEE), reprint a long excerpt, then comment on what Baker has suggested. This leads to much head-scratching commentary as Brown straightforwardly shows that a lot of Baker's assertions are completely off the wall, to put things charitably. Half a page of Baker's book may lead to several pages of Brown pointing out which parts seem nuts, which sections have no evidence to support them, places where Baker states things that are contradicted elsewhere in her own book, and so on. The Kindle price is a bargain three bucks and the ebook is out next month. The price is probably right as the exercise isn't a pleasant one - in his Master Chronology Brown apologises to the reader for spending so long on Baker's work - but readers undecided of the merits of ME AND LEE will find Brown's response an interesting read.

https://www.amazon.com/Judyth-Vary-Baker...ext&sr=1-3

And there are those folks who have asked me why I got mad at Trineday? Not Kris personally, but I beleive it was JVB who introduced me to Kris.

For the record, and the millionth time, if you're reading this Micheal Best, please be advised that Trineday never, ever pulled my book. I simply asked Kris to stop printing them, do you understand? Is there anyway I could make myself any more clearer, and Mike, if you still don't get it, how the hell can you call yourself a researcher?

Now, before I put the cart before the horse, this is the very reason I asked that no more books were to be printed, apparently, JVB had added information into my oringal book unbeknownst to me, oh well, shit happens I suppose, as for Skyhorse, well, that's another issue, I'm pretty sure those guys over there don't know the difference between fact and fiction.

[Scott Kaiser]

Oh, and one more thing, this is the very reason I don't trust publishing companies.

[James Lateer]

I have to speak up here to support my friend and publisher Mr. Kris Millegan. Thanks to him, I have gotten my book The Three Barons published and sitting in libraries in 7 countries including Ecuador and Azerbaijan.

I have never worked with any professional who has more intelligence and integrity than Mr. Millegan. Add to that "hard-working".

As for Judyth Vary Baker, please refer to my Blog entry of a few weeks ago about the UC-Berkeley Molecular Biology Lab. According to Donald H Carpenter in his book A Man of a Million Fragments, a Jim Garrison witness placed Clay Shaw at the Berkeley lab on the day of the JFK assassination. That lab was apparently involved in military weapons projects involving molecular biology IMHO. At least their faculty had some history in that arena.

I can see why the U S Governnent wants to pull out all the stops to prevent the JFK killing from being connected to a US government plot of this controversial type. That goes double for connecting ex-Nazis to the killing. (It was ex-Nazis who dominated the Berkeley Lab according to the Garrison witness Thomas Breitner). This was Paperclip in action.

It looks like the hysterical opposition to J V Baker is that this "weaponized cancer" theory of the JFK assassination is just too threatening to the National Security State. Slinging arrows at JVB is the best those forces can arrange to obscure what is becoming more and more obvious and more and more difficult to hide.

James Lateer [/FONT]

[Scott Kaiser]

The biggest problem today with researchers is the fact that they are eager to publish their findings and very slow to understanding, if you think I said what I said as an attempt attack on Kris, you are farthest from the truth perhaps, Kris didn't know that Judith plugged in her information, I didn't know, and no one told me, however, I'm sure Judith knows what she did. I did not and have not ever blamed Kris for anything, all I've asked was that there be no more publishing of my book., hope you understand, as always, I am.

Very Truly,

[Scott Kaiser]

AND... BTW... the Nazis had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with whacking Jack.

[James Lateer]

OK, not Nazis. But definitely quasi-Nazis, neo-Nazis or ex-Nazis. I don't know what you call the Hitler leftovers, but they definitely were the main drivers and planners of the JFK assassination.

The evidence is mounting, almost at the rate of a little new info every day. I think all the beans will be spilled about the JFK assassination within a few years, maybe sooner.

If there are JFK "Nazi-deniers", they probably don't have a valid alternative theory, no matter how sincere they may be.

James Lateer

[Scott Kaiser]

Why would ex Nazis from Hitler's Army want to assassinate Jack if Jack had nothing to do with World War II that makes no sense?

[James Lateer]

"Why would ex Nazis from Hitler's Army want to assassinate Jack if Jack had nothing to do with World War II that makes no sense?" as asked by Mr. Kaiser.

The leftover WWII Nazis did not leave all their problems behind as of April and May, 1945. You might remember that in 1960 to 1961, Adolf Eichmann was kidnapped in Argentina and taken to Israel for trial.

As far as I have ever heard, nobody knows whether JFK had to sign off on this kidnapping, trial, or whether JFK was o.k. with more and more Nazis being kidnapped and taken back to Germany and/or Israel to stand trial. Although the kidnapping of Eichmann took place under Ike, many people like Konrad Adenauer, Chancellor of Germany were already looking with concern at the likelihood of a JFK Presidency and what it would bring. That probably included the influential ex-Nazis.

The election in the US in 1958 was a liberal Democratic wave. And with that wave came increased influence in the US of traditional Democratic supporters such as Jewish and Zionist voters and contributors. And we had Operation Paperclip ex-Nazis living in the US, probably numbering in the thousands.

And don't forget, the manager of the Saturn Five moon-shot rocket was Arthur Rudolph, an ex-Nazi scientist who was sent back to Germany to face possible prosecution in 1979 or shortly after. As thanks for managing the moonshot, Rudolph was stripped of his US citizenship and sent running, basically for his life or his freedom from 1979 to 1993.

So no, the leftover Nazis from World War II did not instantly become "good old boys" as the comment by Mr. Kaiser might suggest. On top of that, you had major military leaders from Hitler's Wehrmacht serving in the top posts in NATO as of 11-22-63. Some suggest that the US Joint Chiefs of Staff were meeting with ex-Hitler general Adolf Heusinger, (of Nato) at the moment JFK was shot.

One thing is certain--- after 1960, things had gotten a lot hotter worldwide for the former Nazis. Wernher von Braun had to go to court to defend himself against a War Crimes lawsuit brought by the East German Government in the mid-1960's. Von Braun used the facilities and the cover of Clay Shaw's International Trade Mart in that case for his secretive deposition.

Also, the above comment suggesting that since WWII was over, the Nazis would have forgiven and forgotten the bad effects of World War II seems (sorry) superficial. In actuality, Mr. Kaiser and other Americans were fooled into believing that the Nazis in Germany had all been eliminated, neutralized, re-educated and were again good citizens after 1945. NOT!!!!!!!!

But thanks for raising this very important issue on these pages. It really does matter.

James Lateer

[Scott Kaiser]

As far as I have ever heard, nobody knows whether JFK had to sign off on this kidnapping, trial, or whether JFK was o.k. with more and more Nazis being kidnapped and taken back to Germany and/or Israel to stand trial.

I don't beleive the Nuremberg trials were ever really over, of course they didn't catch all the Nazis that did escape, those who participated in murdering more than 5 million Jews, now if you were a Jew and you participated in help forming the Mossad you would understand the need for Justice, which I don't think Jack had any real control over.