Judyth Vary Baker: Living in Exile

[James H. Fetzer]

JUDYTH REPLIES TO JACK ABOUT HER LETTERS

This response serves as a reply to post #1111 from
Jack as well as this one. I have been snowed under by
the blizzard and want to post Judyth's reply promptly.
I find it fascinating how many who are attacking Judyth
--including Glenn Viklund, Barb Junkkarinen, and (now)
even Jack White--appear entirely willing to depend upon
John McAdams. We are way past the point of (what is
known as) diminishing returns in relation to this thread.

JUDYTH RESPONDS:

How sad. Jack White has been accessing John
McAdams' pages, for only there is my love letter to
Lee described as Jack has described it.

Jack has been fooled by McAdams & Co. into saying
that I "presented a lot of "love letters" written to
Robert as being to LHO (salutations torn off)."

He parrots these lies as if they are facts:
'presented a lot of love letters' is what the
McAdams folks say. This is a sad day, to see
him state such a thing, when I could have
answered his questions fully.

i) I presented ONLY ONE love letter to "60 Minutes"
--the only one I ever wrote to Lee.

ii) There is only ONE letter to Robert Baker in
the record. I saved it to prove the situation in New
Orleans. The other letter was to Lee. I never had
possession of any other of Robert Baker's love
letters. Of course he has them (unless his wife threw
them away).

I am sorry to see Jack taking time to read
material offered by the WC defender,
John McAdams, and his cohorts.

Here is what Jack wrote:

"Has anyone corresponded with Robert Baker
lately? From what I have seen on the internet,
he does not believe his ex's tales. Also noted
that JVB presented a lot of "love letters"
written to Robert as being to LHO (salutations
torn off)."

My reply:

Jack, you went to the Internet and are
now parrotting what you found there. You
could have asked questions instead of
stating 'factoids' from McAdams & Co.

Now you'll get the facts.

1) Typically, Robert Baker does not respond.
However, his wife may respond for him, pretending
to be Robert Baker. Dr. Howard Platzman exposed
her as POSING as Robert Baker in emails.

She married Baker in ther late 1980's and knew
nothing of what transpired in 1963.

However, she said Robert Baker remembered
returning to Florida on July 20, 1963.

He (or, rather, she) said I was lying about saying
any later.

But paycheck stubs, utility payment checks, bank
statements, and more show that we remained
in New Orleans until early SEPTEMBER. Baker
was 'off' on the date by six weeks. He was
out of town so much he has few memories of
New Orleans.

2) Mr. Baker is a genius with an IQ of 186,
measured and known. However, his memory of
details many other people recall is dismal. A
math genius, he was unable to remember his own
mother's maiden name when asked for it on our
marriage license. I attach our marriage license,
showing a blank there.

He could not remember the names of his
elementary school teachers. He forgot what
grade his oldest son was in. He spent more
real time with his parents that summer than he
spent in New Orleans, and the rest of his time
was out in the Gulf of Mexico. We have his dated
letters showing exactly where he was all summer,
and what he was doing. We can account for
every single day where he was--something he
is unable to do. He did admit that I mnight have
had an affair that summer, though he is certain
(and is correct) that was the only time I would have
conducted an affair. However, his wife may come
up with some stories for you, posing as him.

Take your chances.

3) The love letter that is supposed to have its
salutation torn off' -- the ONLY leter I ever submitted,
the ONLY letter I ever showed anybody, written
to Lee, has its salutation intact. What was torn was
part of a quotation on the right side, top.

NOBODY writes a salutation on the upper right-hand
corner. it's always on the left-hand side.



McAdams & Co. wrote: "notice there is no name
for recipient; section torn off."

But let's examine this letter and see if it could
have been written to my much-absent husband
who neglected me the entire summer, who left me
alone in New Orleans one day after we were married,
without tellng me how to reach him.

On the other hand, that summer Lee and I became
involved in dangerous matters. This letter was
written to Lee after he told me he believed he was
going to be killed, and that he was sorry he had
gotten me involved in his life. Read the letter and
see how serious it is about life and death.

ANYONE who reads my book will know that
Robert's impact on me was very different. He was
gone so much that I decided to divorce him, and
only because I was forced back to Florida by
Ochsner did I stay with him. Always fond of him,
Robert had no troubles or trials for me to worry
about.

Before going any further, look at the torn-off
section: the words 'thou" and "bestowed" can
be read. I wrote someting there such as,
"Thou, upon whom I bestowed my love."

There is nothing there to suggest a name torn off.
...'thou' begins on the same line across as "My
dearest love."

Indeed, the letter was given to "60 Minutes" intact.
It was damaged later, when vandals ripped up many
of my papers. They saw the letter intact.
Dr. Howard Plazman saw the letter intact.

I did not dare address Lee by name. Lee returned
the letter because he did not dare carry it to Mexico
City, but he did not want it destroyed. We hoped to
keep the letter as part of our history as lovers in
New Orleans. Certainly I own no letters that I wrote
to Robert, except the one I took with me when we
divorced, to prove I came alone to New Orleans.

I originally planned to take my knowledge to the
grave, but wanted evidence passed on to my oldest
son.

Thus, I kept the New Orleans letter to Robert.

And of course, I kept the precious letter, to Lee..

Note that I underlined the word 'dearest' because
I had two lovers in my life at that time:

(McAdams & Co, wrote the info in the black area,
that Mr. White read)

I wrote: "you are forever immortal because of what we
have between us."

Who brings up death in a love letter?
Who would write (if we fled and had to stay in hiding):

"A lifetime of sorrow could lie ahead for us, but what
difference? Together, today, we live forever!"

And why write "I won't forget" to Robert Baker, who
had left me to fend for myself in New Orleans?

I would never forget that Lee rescued me after I was
thrown out in the middle of the night onto the streets
of New Orleans, and he found me an apartment and
paid 1/3 of the rent for it.

Robert would be gone up to 21 days at a time, as
his letters prove. McAdams & Co. posted what the
'fake" Robert Baker told them, that 'he' was out a
week and home for 4 days at a time, that summer.

But his letters and paycheck stubs, which I kept to
prove his whereabouts, show that was not the case.

And what about "And I love you forever, dearest
beloved, no matter what! Kisses and love,
your Judy."

No matter what?

We didn't know what was going to happen to us!

WHO touched me, 'so gently, so lovingly, so
surely, like the gentlest raindrops on parched soil'?

Was it the man who sent me a POST CARD
when he came through New Orleans with his friends,
dropped into a postbox to his new, young, lonely
wife who was LIVING in New Orleans, saying he
would be coming by to see me in a few days, and
complaining about how hot it was? Oh, and asking
me to be sure to eat well?

Who signed off on a letter to me as 'Rat" --
knowing he'd neglected me terribly?



Instead of relying on inaccurate and biased
"information" from McAdams & Co., please
ask the witness next time, and get the truth.

For the truth, instead of McAdams'
misleading factoids, check:

http://www.judythbaker.blogspot.com
http://www.judythvarybaker.com

People, the thread has gotten too long.

It's time for those who care about the truth to go to
my blogs.

You can ask questions there without hunting
for answers in a long thread.

If Mr. White prefers to use McAdams' flawed material,
stating factoids from that kind of person, when the
witness is standing here ready to answer his
questions, it's time to urge everyone who really
cares about these matters to visit our blogs for
the correct information.

I also am now 'on the road' and cannot respond
to questions here anymore. I will be all but
incommunicado for at least 8 weeks, until I get
safe Internet connections again.

I believe many questions have been answered and
that honest researchers can see that many rumors
floating out there were wrong.

My family's name was not "Avary,"
I never had lots of love letters to show people,

I really did do advanced cancer research,

KanKun was not the same as Cancun,

Lee DID arrive in New Orleans on April 25 as I
stated, neither Lee nor I knew that David Atlee
Phillips was his handler's real name until almost
the last minute (despite Lifton's twisted version),

I was NOT kicked off the DellaRosa forum for
abusive posts,

I DID receive protection (including inhibition) in the
EU political asylum system, etc., etc.

Thank you, everyone who has been polite, and decent.

Be sure to tune in to hear Edward Haslam's
next broadcast with Dr. Jim Fetzer. Be sure and
get the eye-opening book Dr. Mary's Monkey.

And think about pre-purchasing Me & Lee from
my website. Those who do will receive a personal
hand-written thank-you leter of appreciation for
doing so.

God bless you all,

Judyth Vary Baker

[quote name='Jack White' post='189471' date='Apr 11 2010, 10:26 PM']
Good post, Don...except JVB is NOT the only one who knows the truth.
Her former husband said she was with him in the fall of '63 in Florida,
NOT IN NEW ORLEANS. He said that when LHO's photo was published
as the assassin, that his wife exclaimed to him, "I think I knew
that guy in New Orleans!"

Maybe someone should track down Robert Baker.

Jack

[quote name='Don Jeffries' post='189468' date='Apr 11 2010, 08:19 PM']Lee,

Thanks for one of the best posts in a very, very long thread.

The critical community seems never to learn; once again, we can see why so little progress has been made over the years. Too many egos, too many combative and sensitive personalities- it's an old story. We end up incessantly battling each other over theories and side issues. As Pamela notes, it's essential that CTers stand together for what will certainly be the biggest onslaught of lone nutterism to date when the 50th anniversary rolls around in a few years.

As I noted in an earlier post, only Judyth knows the truth about her and Lee Harvey Oswald. At this point, failing any new irrefutable piece of evidence, I think we're beating a dead horse here.

I would hope that this contentious issue doesn't irreperably damage the relationships between fine researchers like Jack White, Jim Fetzer and David Lifton. We've had too many of these feuds in the past, and they've been tremendous roadblocks in exposing the truth about the JFK assassination. Let's not let this issue further divide us. Reasonable people can disagree about Judyth Baker, or John Armstrong, or James Files, etc. Let's all stay aware of the big picture and remember that our foremost objective ought to be exposing the impossibility of the official story.[/quote]
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