Judyth Vary Baker: Living in Exile

[James H. Fetzer]

ANOTHER REPLY TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO USE SLINGS AND ARROWS

Let me see if I got this straight. Doug rejects her because she got everything
right. Jack rejects her because she got something wrong. So which is it? The
endless carping about Judyth will go on and on and on. Each of us must make
our own judgments about what she has to tell us. I stand with Nigel Turner, Ed
Haslam, Howard Platzman, Jim Marrs, "60 Minutes", and others who have come
to believe in her. I have offered dozens, even hundreds, of reasons for having
that opinion. Ed Haslam has given her a thorough vetting, where Judyth fills in
crucial missing pieces of the puzzle that was New Orleans in the early 1960s. I
believe in her and, I assume, at this point in time, no one needs to wonder why.

Having created this thread, I have read every post and responded to most. The
global impression I have derived is that many have opinions, usually ones that
are detrimental to Judyth, but very few have well-founded opinions. Let me use
Jack as an illustration. He has posted around a dozen (12) complaints about her,
which I have studied. The number of well-founded complaints has turned out to
be zero (0), which means that Jack has utterly failed to discredit her. The date
of the meeting with Ochsner, which may be his best bet, has already been met.
That date may have been mistaken, but the event took place, just as described.
The other attacks from Viklund, Junkkarinen, Lifton, Weldon, and others do not,
in my opinion, warrant serious concern, since many of them, though not all, are
of the variety "I just can see how . . . " or "Who would believe that . . .?" variety.



As Howard observed, Junkkarinen has been the most persistent and also among
the most beneficial. She unearthed the abstract to a study Judyth had done as
a science student. No matter how much Junkkarinen might want to minimize its
import, it demonstrates that she was doing sophisticated research on cancer at a
precocious age. Indeed, she had made discoveries about cancer that were far
in advance of those known to the National Institutes of Health and the American
Cancer Society. She was not on the radar screen or known for her research to
the American people, however, which made her an ideal candidate to participate
on covert cancer research projects that were being conducted in New Orleans.
She was lured with promises of fellowships and med school. The rest is history.

That anyone at this late date should harbor any doubts about (i) whether or not
Judyth was an extraordinary science student in high school, (ii) that Judyth was
recruited by Alton Ochsner to do research in New Orleans, (iii) that she met Lee
Oswald early on (which appears to have been arranged), (iv) that she worked on
cancer research with David Ferrie, Lee Oswald, and Mary Sherman, M.D., using a
secret lab with monkeys and mice, and (v) that she complained to Ochsner with
respect to conducting an experiment with a prisoner without consent that killed
him, and (vi) that Ochsner closed down the operation and had Lee transferred to
Dallas. All of this--and more--in my view have been established beyond doubt.
And many additional details have been presented in this thread & on this forum.



I have interviewed Judyth (twice), I have read and studied hundreds of emails,
I have posted a large portion of those here (often with supporting photographs,
documents, or other records), I have prepared blogs about Judyth and others
about Ed Haslam, I have published a chapter from the revised edition of MARY,
FERRIE, AND THE MONKEY VIRUS, I have linked to "The Love Affair" and the
testimony of Anna Lewis, who, with her husband, David, double-dated with Lee
and Judyth, and much, much more, including critiques of various problems she
and I and others have found with HARVEY & LEE, some so blatant that I would
not expect a newbie to commit them. Yet this entire thread remains silent. We
do have a double-standard: believe anything John Armstrong says, no matter
how outlandish; disbelieve anything Judyth says, no matter how well-founded.

This has turned into the original amateur hour, where one pseudo-researcher
is trying to out do another. I suspect that my background for research is longer
and stronger than that of anyone else here. My 29th book appears next month.
I spent 35 years teaching logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning. None
of you can claim stronger credentials for evaluating evidence and arguments. I
am convinced that Judyth is "the real deal". When I no longer hold that view, I
shall be certain to announce it here. In the meanwhile, I highly recommend that
some of you study some of the sources that I have recommended, including, of
course, DR. MARY'S MONKEY. It would be good if you knew something about the
case and the mass of evidence supporting what Judyth has been trying to tell us.



The kitchen in the lab where much of her research with David Ferrie was conducted

[quote name='Jack White' post='190210' date='Apr 20 2010, 04:01 PM']
From Dealy Plaza Echo, by John Delane Williams (review of Haslam book) with
approval and comments by Judyth Vary Baker:


Time Lines for Judyth and Lee in New Orleans, 1963

Judyth Vary Baker in New Orleans, 1963

April 20: Judyth arrives in New Orleans.

April 26: Judyth meets Oswald in front of the post office when Judyth went there to get a
letter from her fiancé, Robert Baker.

April 27: Oswald introduced Judyth to (Dr.) David Ferrie, who was said to be a colleague
of Dr. Mary Sherman, a noted cancer researcher. Oswald introduced Judyth to Guy
Banister, who confirmed that Oswald was working on the anti-Castro project. Then
Oswald took Judyth to meet Alton Ochsner, M.D., an internationally known physician
working with cancer patients and cancer research. First Oswald went in by himself, and
then he invited Judyth in and introduced her to Dr. Ochsner.[/quote]