Russ Baker and Jim DiEugenio: most curious

[John Kowalski]

I would not attempt to divine what motivates the main groups
and I think both/all are sincere. That said:

JFK Lancer...tries to stay middle of the road and non-controversial.
Vigorously opposes certain research, such as Z film fakery. Tries
to steer research away from US/MilIndComp involvement. Opposes
US involvement in 911.

COPA...More traditional old-school research group, supported by
earlier main-line researchers such as Wecht and Groden. Encourages
new research. Kept alive solely by John Judge.

Mavericks/Loners...unaffiliated with the other groups. Responsible
for much good research and new thinking, but difficult for the mainline
groups above to deal with. Includes some like Livingstone and Lifton.
Lifton and Livingstone were early to recognize problems with the Zfilm.

My opinion. Hope this helps.

Jack

Jack:

Thanks for the info.

John

Oh, my...I sense I'm about to get myself in trouble with some people I respect and would care if they respected me...but truth is truth and that is what this is all about. I agree with all Jack said above. Lancer people are sincere, IMO, and motivated, BUT just can't BELIEVE [go there!] that things are really that bad and we've been had....not once, but multiple times. They seem to [generalizing] feel that America was hijacked/deceived once [11/22/63]. COPA [although not uniformly!] is more likely to believe that we have never had a moment/ polity action, war/assassination, covert op, etc. that wasn't a hijacking, deception and false-flag op. I think Lancer are not [mostly] trying to deceive, but simply can not 'deal' with such a reality, and thus use psychological denial [and other such] to 'deflect' it. Sadly, this coincides with much of the USA populace. Lancer folks are, generally, also enamored of the 'Camelot' myth. I think JFK was a man changing from an Oligarch to a Free-thinker and that is exactly why he was murdered by the men behind the curtain - who lurk there still!

IMO, 9-11 was a carbon-copy of Dallas [and I could name others], only larger and more dangerous. To deny this is, IMO, a fatal flaw [fatal to the human race and all hope for humans...] :goodnight:

IMHO. :adore: :banghead:

Peter GETS IT exactly. Some sincere people (including MOST of
my friends) believe in the Camelot myth, and that JFK possibly
was killed by a conspiracy, but it was an ANOMALY...a one time
event. This is the Lancer model. The cannot bring themselves to
believe that it is the NORM, not an anomaly. They DON'T get it.

Jack

I suppose if one only researches the JFK assassination, one could come to that opinion. But to only examine what happened in Dallas in isolation, and treat it as an anomaly is to forget the rest of history, and, unfortunately, the sugar-coated view of history that is taught in school and a media that reinforces this view doesn't help.

What sect does does Jim D belong to?

John