18-02-2011, 01:16 AM
Charles Drago Wrote:So many elements of this plot predate your preferred starting point.
Agreed. I don't necessarily disagree. The influences were mixed amongst different political wavelengths from different sources. Allow me to cop out to save space and plead the "Mastermind" loophole that JM/WAVE was 'pivotal' lol.
Charles Drago Wrote:I'd ask you to think about the way you're thinking about the CIA -- which is as a monolithic entity and a force unto itself, rather than as an ideologically divided mechanical subsystem of a larger power structure.
I'm trying to say CIA wherever I can in order to defeat their tactic of compartmentalization whose purpose is to create the very disagreement you are seeing in this exchange. The room full of mirrors is owned by one group in one room, though I humbly yield to any more precise inquiries.
It's weird. When reading Unspeakable I imagined the center of gravity of CIA's efforts as being a force so strong it created a blurry transparent ball of energy floating in the room. The blurry ball of energy was definitely in Lodge's office in Viet-Nam and Diem's as well. The strength of the forces Kennedy represented vs those of the CIA were focused and concentrating in Saigon. Diem was being used as a proxy for Kennedy by CIA outside of US borders where CIA was in control, not Kennedy. It was a brilliant strategy to send the message who was in charge and how it would be handled. The message was clear as to what would happen to leaders who challenged CIA's control and objectives or tried to displace them. CIA took a stand against Kennedy's neutralization policy for self-determination of subject states in Viet-Nam determined to head-off Kennedy's attempt to repeat his neutralization success in Laos in Viet-Nam.
The energy ball was definitely somewhere there in Dealey Plaza...