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Grassy knoll=diversion
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You questioned how a shot from the right front of Kennedy's head could make an exit wound on the right rear of the head, right? Simple...after a bullet, especially a hollowpoint one, doesn't always follow a straight path. Deflection from the resistance of the skin or bone can cause a bullet to take a direction completely different from the original point of entry. Being a hunter, I've seen bullets end up in completely different places than their entry points would originally suggest.

Gordon Gray Wrote:
Zach Robertson Wrote:Betty, great topic.

In my opinion it is highly likely that you are exactly right. I believe the shot came from the front where the overpass meets the fence [with two other shooters behind, possibly one in the Dal Tex and one in the TSBD on the opposite end of the "snipers' lair"].

Have you read the Roy Hargraves Interview with Noel Twyman? He sticks to the script of Castro/Soviet conspiracy but drops in a few nuggets about what you have posted about. He describes 'signal man' [DCM] as his good friend Felipe Vidal Santiago. It is very likely that Umbrella Man is someone Vidal worked very closely with. Hargraves had also had fake secret service ID and admitted to being in Dallas with Vidal. He went on to say that Vidal had a walkie talkie.

Vidal is clearly signalling the crossfire with a series of clenched and unclenched fists while it appears to me that Umbrella Man's purpose was to get the Limo drivers [secret service] to look at him and get their attention and slow down. I think it is the Bronson image where the umbrella is a blur which we can deduce he is pumping it up and down very violently.

The ambush in Dallas was done by professionals who were well trained by the CIA. There would be contingency plans, diversions and false trails planted leading in all sorts of directions. Off-the-books assets like the Cuban military snipers described by Bradley Ayers were probably used. Their spotters were likely trained in infiltration techniques, things that CIA operations officer Dave Morales and his people were teaching them in 62-63. I think Morales planned the assassination and used contacts as cut outs to manage the project who in turn would be on site in Dallas. Hargraves goes on to mention that these people, described as 'handlers,' would be on the ground to let the operators know the op was genuine and the danger was real and shared by all.

Zach
While I believe a shot definitely struck the President in the head from the front, I have always questioned how a trajectory from the right front(Grassy Knoll, edge of the fence and overpass) could be consistent with an exit wound on the right rear of his head, given the orientation of his head and the position of the car at the moment of impact. That would seem to be more consistent with a wound to the left rear. It seems to me the President's wounds are more consistent with a trajectory from the left front, originating on the south end of the overpass or the south knoll. I question whether this trajectory would allow for a shot that did not strike Jackie or Greer and did not penetrate the limosine windshield. I wonder if anyone has done sightings from these positions to see if it is possible.
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Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 20-05-2011, 06:11 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Ed Jewett - 20-05-2011, 11:54 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 21-05-2011, 02:27 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 21-05-2011, 10:26 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Kyle Burnett - 22-05-2011, 03:23 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Ed Jewett - 22-05-2011, 03:57 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 22-05-2011, 12:00 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 22-05-2011, 06:57 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Albert Doyle - 22-05-2011, 07:13 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Charles Drago - 22-05-2011, 07:40 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 23-05-2011, 12:09 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 23-05-2011, 01:09 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Magda Hassan - 23-05-2011, 03:18 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Peter Lemkin - 23-05-2011, 05:06 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Peter Lemkin - 23-05-2011, 05:39 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 23-05-2011, 11:18 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 24-05-2011, 02:17 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 02:50 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 02:55 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 24-05-2011, 04:25 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 04:33 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 24-05-2011, 07:28 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 07:53 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by James Lewis - 24-05-2011, 08:33 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 08:45 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by James Lewis - 24-05-2011, 09:04 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 10:05 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by James Lewis - 24-05-2011, 11:08 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 11:39 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by James Lewis - 24-05-2011, 12:56 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Stan Wilbourne - 24-05-2011, 01:47 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Keith Millea - 24-05-2011, 03:40 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 04:37 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 24-05-2011, 04:53 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 24-05-2011, 06:22 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 24-05-2011, 11:45 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 25-05-2011, 02:20 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Keith Millea - 25-05-2011, 03:59 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 27-05-2011, 04:15 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011, 05:23 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011, 05:32 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011, 05:39 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 27-05-2011, 05:51 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011, 06:22 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011, 06:46 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Kyle Burnett - 27-05-2011, 07:21 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Phil Dragoo - 27-05-2011, 09:56 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 27-05-2011, 03:28 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 27-05-2011, 09:56 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 28-05-2011, 06:20 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 29-05-2011, 01:34 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by James Lewis - 29-05-2011, 01:50 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 29-05-2011, 01:56 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Albert Doyle - 29-05-2011, 02:03 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 29-05-2011, 02:23 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 29-05-2011, 03:52 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 29-05-2011, 04:03 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 29-05-2011, 04:10 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 29-05-2011, 04:16 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 29-05-2011, 05:01 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 29-05-2011, 06:43 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 29-05-2011, 08:06 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 29-05-2011, 08:31 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Paul Rigby - 29-05-2011, 10:17 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 30-05-2011, 12:17 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Zach Robertson - 30-05-2011, 12:41 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Albert Doyle - 30-05-2011, 05:51 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 31-05-2011, 12:28 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 31-05-2011, 12:33 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 31-05-2011, 04:34 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Seamus Coogan - 31-05-2011, 04:56 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Betty Chruscielski - 01-06-2011, 01:55 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 05-04-2013, 01:55 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 05-04-2013, 02:02 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Magda Hassan - 05-04-2013, 02:02 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 05-04-2013, 02:32 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 05-04-2013, 12:37 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 05-04-2013, 09:03 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 06-04-2013, 11:39 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 06-04-2013, 11:51 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 07-04-2013, 01:01 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 07-04-2013, 01:19 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 07-04-2013, 02:44 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 08-04-2013, 12:25 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 08-04-2013, 01:52 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Bernice Moore - 08-04-2013, 01:58 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Miles Scull - 09-04-2013, 07:14 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 10-04-2013, 06:33 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Phil Dragoo - 10-04-2013, 09:12 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Jim Hackett II - 23-04-2013, 08:37 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Phil Dragoo - 24-04-2013, 09:27 PM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 25-04-2013, 02:03 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Jim Hackett II - 25-04-2013, 07:51 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Phil Dragoo - 26-04-2013, 01:22 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 26-04-2013, 01:25 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Phil Dragoo - 26-04-2013, 10:03 AM
Grassy knoll=diversion - by Gordon Gray - 26-04-2013, 04:27 PM

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