11-06-2011, 07:12 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2011, 08:07 PM by Seamus Coogan.)
Albert Doyle Wrote:I'm wondering if Seamus even read 'Final Judgment'? The reason I ask is because the counter points he gives so much weight to are easily shattered by Piper's material if you read it in depth. For instance Seamus gives refuting value to his link on Israel's development of nuclear weapons. I scanned it and it didn't contain anything that would challenge what Piper wrote. A better attempt to refute Piper would have acknowledged his detailing how Kennedy had dug his heels in on supplying nuclear development materiel to Israel while Angleton was directly subverting his power by sneaking nuclear blueprints and uranium to Dimona. You can see the value the mediterranean connection had and what kind of power it was forming.
Another thing is DeGualle's attempted assassination by OAS was somewhat similar to JFK's in the way that a right wing military oriented group refused to go along with his soft position on a rebelling colony. Israel had direct interests in limiting arab independence and therefore power.
I fear how those who oppose Piper's thesis would do if he came into this thread and defended his material. While pleading to avoid any personal animosity and requesting diplomatic immunity on the subject, I suggest diverting the discussion to "anti-semitism" is, in my mind, a sign that the direct actual facts and their meanings are being avoided. Or maybe they haven't been understood?
Alas, I confess I have not the time to go dig into 'Final Judgment' and seek out the quotes. Maybe this discussion can be put off for now?
I think this is rich. I've asked for this conversation to be moved to another thread for awhile. So please don't bring me up in this as if I am the one persisting with it. Albert if you'd 'read' Pipers book he spells it 'De Gaulle' or more correctly 'de Gaulle' is how it should be spelt. I am guilty also. But wow like who is De Gualle?
The points I made were taken from Marks opinions and his statements. Now, please don't misconstrue what Mark or I have said. Mark mentioned nothing of what you have discussed so don't play games. It's one of your worst habits. You often take things I have said out of context in particularly when we were discussing the potential gunmen in Dealey Plaza.
So please don't take me out of context again. It's the act of a coward as far as I'm concerned. And as I rather like you and really don't want to think ill I'll write it off as just another 'mistake'.
Now if you want me one day to do a big CTKA piece shredding Piper to pieces well you'll just have to join the cue. I have had a good skim through Pipers book. Didn't take notes. You may recall I mentioned that I thought it interesting about Berlets name. But I'd start to get very worried when a CTKA writer starts taking detailed notes on a crock. You've seen what happens. Pray tell me where the references are so I can start making some. If Piper ever showed up, why oh why would I be intimidated? He's such an intellectual giant of a man.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992