15-07-2011, 05:57 AM
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:.... Can they all keep their mouths shut?
Wow! Even today, after years of batting these kinds of issues around, with the waves of "debunking", we see this old tired canard of an 'argument' show up once again. If you can't do better than that....
There are three immediate answers to this, and it's too late in the day for me to think terribly hard for more...
1) The list of people who have opened their mouths, known in the field as "whistle-blowers", is well-publicized.
2) It is obvious you have never heard of "cut-outs", "compartmentalization" or the use of -- and dismantling of -- corporate shells.
3) As has been noted previously, the 9/11 "game" was based to a great extent on computerization, some of which occurs at speeds measured in microseconds. Previously posted, for example, and probably capable of being found again, are numerous articles on the application of the OODA loop to cyberwarfare. Christ almight, Jeffrey, but Indira Singh, risk management specialist for JP MorganRothschild, was screaming about this from the top of "the pile". Spend some time understanding the OODA loop, and then reflect on the state-of-the-art and the "black" or covert work that has likely been done in the related fields of information, warfare, technologies, etc etc in the years 1995-2001 and whih may still be hidden, secret or "black".
Oh, yes, that's right... we did discuss this when you first came in.. https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...Kevin-Ryan
Here's another one: http://www.sans.edu/research/leadership-...ard-porter
This one is from 1996: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/afit/schec_gm.pdf
The description of the application of the OODA loop to the electronic battlefield starts on page 51.
Here's one from 2000 on e-commerce.
The mere fact that some of this stuff is poorly understood, covert, etc. makes mince-meat of any reliance on obvious, visible, measurable "evidence" or "science".
But for god's sake, keep your mouth shut about it.
Someone is likely to hear you and throw you in the can with Manning and make you eat peanut-butter-flavored Ensure.
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