9/11 Al Qaeda suspects brought to point of death by US torture

[David Guyatt]

Well, I didn't think they'd be pummelled with cream filled doughnuts to be sure.

Torture is torture, what did people expect? That's why it was outlawed internationally, and that's why in 2002, Bush withdrew America from the International Court of Justice in the Hague, in order to avoid being guilty of war crimes. Mind you, he still was (quite rightly) found guilty of war crimes, along with Blair, Cheney and Rumsfeld at the Kuala Liumpur War Crimes Commission in November 2011.

I love the bit below about the doctor present making sure the tortured did not actually die - just nearly so. So good to see the hypocritical oath in practise in medicine. Did anyone get the docs name so he could be disbarred and his name sent to Kuala Lumpur for inclusion in any cases of future prosecutions?

Al-Qaeda suspects were brought to the 'point of death' during 'real torture' by CIA



US Senate's forthcoming 'Torture Report' will 'deeply shock' people

IAN JOHNSTON

Sunday 07 September 2014

At least two al-Qaeda suspects were brought to the "point of death" during "real torture" by CIA officials following the 9/11 attacks, a security source has claimed.

The insider said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, allegedly the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Centre and Pentagon, and at least one other person were not simply waterboarded, which is designed to simulate the sensation of drowning.
"They weren't just pouring water over their heads or over a cloth," the source told The Daily Telegraph.
"They were holding them under water until the point of death, with a doctor present to make sure they did not go too far. This was real torture."
The US Senate is planning to publish a 3,600-page document dubbed the Torture Report spelling out what happened to al-Qaeda suspects in US custody. Another source said the report would "deeply shock" people in the US.
Dianne Feinstein, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, has said the report will reveal "brutality that stands in stark contrast to our values as a nation".
A third source told the Telegraph that tactics used during questioning were more savage than had been admitted to date, saying "they got medieval on his ass" about the treatment of Mohammed and another detainee.
Amrit Singh, a lawyer and author of Administration of Torture, which details the George W Bush administration's torture policy, said: "Given the lengths that Bush-era CIA officials went to cover up the truth, including destroying videotapes depicting waterboarding of prisoners, it comes as no surprise that the torture was more brutal than previously revealed.
"It is, however, something that the American public has a right to know about, and an obligation to reckon with, and these revelations only underscore the urgent need for release of the Senate intelligence committee report."

[Magda Hassan]

And now they are shocked that they are beheading western journalists. They hate us for our freedoms.

[David Guyatt]

Yep, our fault for exporting freedom and democracy all over the world...

[Magda Hassan]

Yep, our fault for exporting freedom and democracy all over the world...

Some people are so ungrateful it seems. After all we've done to them. Sorry! That should be after all we've done for them.

[Dawn Meredith]

And now they are shocked that they are beheading western journalists. They hate us for our freedoms.

I was just about to say the same thing. This government has brought about real terror in retaliation for its terror.

[David Guyatt]

And now they are shocked that they are beheading western journalists. They hate us for our freedoms.

I was just about to say the same thing. This government has brought about real terror in retaliation for its terror.

All the better for the defence (oops, sorry that should be "war") contractors who, in turn, provide vital support the otherwise eminently collapsible US dollar by exporting peace to every nook and cranny of the world.

[Anthony Thorne]

A shame the torture report isn't prefaced with a page noting it was all carefully planned, self-justifying bullshit done to lend validity to the smoke and mirrors ruse of the attacks. A good a reason to torture as any other, I suppose.