07-04-2009, 04:47 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Don't mean to be a pessimist on this, but hope for what? The officials will never IMO admit the truth on this or Dallas or Iran Contra or Savings and Loan or current Economic Collapse and all the covert ops in between. They can NOT - the entire system upon which they feed would collapse. WE the People might not mind the CHANGE it would bring - and huge change that would be!...but since all current pols and people in power would no longer be - or be in prison or on the run, they can not, will not and will go down fiighting - my own personal belief willing to suspend the Consitution, and put all 'protestors' in prison camps; call out the military and Xe etc. throughout the USA to keep what they have. Sorry to say. All we can hope for, really, is a peaceful revolution bottom-up. Top-down you can forget about it!......not even an investigation, no change - only PR and re-arranging deck chairs on the US Titanic, IMO.
Well Peter, I have to say I agree with pretty much all of that. Investment in the official narrative and the righteousness of the epoch-changing foreign policy and military initiatives it underpins is just so vast as to render it absolutely sacrosanct to the Western Power Elites. In similar fashion to the orthodox religious creeds of old, effective high-profile dissent will continue to be life-threateningly dangerous to the dissenter unless he can be effectively ridiculed or otherwise marginalised. I have always maintained that the USA could not survive official confirmation that it is a false narrative and so, short of the dissolution of the USA, the official narrative will stand no matter how overwhelming the evidence of its absurdity.
That said, I also believe that the continued existence of the USA as a unitary State together with its 'Empire' of subservient states (the UK chief among them) can no longer be taken for granted. The confluence of threats posed by climate change, population growth and peak just-about-everything (especially Oil/Gas) have brought humanity to a pretty unique pass right now and there is no guarantee how the chips will fall, other than that there is likely to be serious and vicious repression to maintain an increasingly untenable status-quo. My hope (forlorn though it may be) is that the 9/11 Truth movement may succeed in providing bit of a push to the process because that's probably about all we can hope for.
My general attitude to our predicament these days is probably best summed up by Dmitri Orlov in 'Re-inventing Collapse' which I heartily recommend as a laser accurate and very funny book by a perceptive ex-patriot Russian. His blog is worth a visit too
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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