18-10-2012, 10:01 PM
Quote:The important thing you have to understand is that Cuba was so inextricable from the assassination cabal that backing it was tantamount to participating in the assassination. It is the plausibly-deniable course these backers would have taken to hide the their true intentions. This is the inarguable modus operandi of the beast.
Yeah right. What you are doing is setting-up false agreement that you then methodically construct all the disingenuous escape hatches to bail out and then set-up the scene for your real intention - which is disagreement. Who do you think you're fooling David?
As I said above - when YOU get to both ask and answer the questions, you don't need a conversation partner...
Sir, you are so taken by what Piper has told YOU, and you alone here in this conversation, that there is no discussion anymore... this is you Preaching from the Piper pulpit... hoping someone like me comes along so you can spout all your Piper knowledge... I see MANY OTHERS here have avoided you and this conversation...
Guess I need to learn.
When you repeatedly use phrases like - "WOULD be involved", "WOULD be kept from the plan" - to present your "facts" you are making assumptions - you do not have anything to support using the word "WILL" be involved, and "WILL" be in or out of the plan. You can only connect the group to the activity thru supposition.
You and Mr Piper simply do not know - there is a theory that fits the players... anti-semitism has kept this breakthru theory from being accepted mainstream... right?
We identify ONE GROUP that is probably tied to OTHER GROUPS who have ties to OTHER GROUPS who all want JFK dead.
So JFK dies. and everyone on this list benefits.
This is not "surgery to the top of the head" or "there was NO TRANSIT thru the shoulder"... this is you (& Piper) looking at the players and deciding who COULD do this, who MIGHT do this, who is in the best position to accomplish this... and coming to your conclusion....
Since the Mafia/CIA/Israel are all connected, AND Israel was miffed over the nuclear situation, AND the mafia wanted back into Cuba, AND the CIA did not want JFK and his brother to release them from their role, AND the JCS wanted to blow CUba off the planet along with Russia and anyone else, and the MIC/United Fruit wanted to play their games...
yet you conclude that ISRAEL was behind the killing of JFK.
You dont understand there are no absolutes in this case, that we can't KNOW, but only assume and support with authenticated and corrobrated evidence...
IF it went down as Piper said, then these people are key players and could have pulled it off....
No argument...
Yet as you keep pushing, this is the ONLY WAY to see the assassination, that anyone looking at it differently or not accepting THIS explanation is plain wrong...
Keep up this POV and my guess no one will want to play with you anymore Albert - at least not on this subject -
so I hope you are not waiting for me to tell you how CORRECT you are...
When an entire community of people I respect do not give Piper the time of day....
and the one person who does support him insults me for discussing my OPINION based on the facts I've researched...
I'm not inclined to continue this conversation any longer... or any conversation where the other person writes off the questions asked by changing the subject and insulting the poster.
Take it or leave it Albert - this is my last post in this thread....
[QUOTE][If you read Echevarria comment he very definitely says that the new backing is dependent on Kennedy's killing
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Again... your interpretation...
"we now have plenty of money.... our new backers are jews... as soon as 'we' (or 'they') take care of Kennedy.....
You have no idea HOW this was said OR what was meant... but you and Piper and others have IDEAS... very nice Albert, yet your ideas of what things mean is not
the only way to see them... sorry to burst your self importance bubble
Sir... reading again thru your response...
[QUOTE][What pisses me off about you David, is no matter how many times it is explained to you you refuse to even recognize that, according to the unholy underground relationship CIA had to both Israel, the mob, and Cuba, there was no difference in acting in favor of any separate one. Until you understand and register the Lansky/Rosenbaum/Israel cabal Piper explains you simply can't validly participate in any discussion of it. Especially in relation to Echevarria. CIA was directly in control and receiving kickbacks from that relationship. The same CIA that was directly involved in the assassination.
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Oh I understand it and register it just fine Albert... I'm simply not a Piper disciple like you are... You've come to your conclusion and you defend it... fine.
Sell it to someone else please... I'll be dropping from this thread as I simply cannot discuss this with you - you are so closed to anything that challenges or even questions Piper - you've lost the ability to behave with respect and make an argument that includes EVIDENCE, not WOULD OF's and COULD OF's.... and "IF"