Michael Piper and Final Judgment

[David Josephs]

your conclusions, even in your last post, are not supportable by any corroborated evidence....

PLEASE CITE SOURCES...

Ben-Gurion was driven to a nervous breakdown by his negotiations with Kennedy. He resigned office because of it, yet you are trying to suggest this was a product of Hersh's imagination. As is typical of you David, it seems to me like you are trying to hide too much behind that obvious Hersh-association device. You can't defeat this with source defamation. It is obviously well beyond just Hersh alone. Mark has already cited the books referencing this.

No Albert. Mark hasn't... if he has... link to the post and stop shying away from the task at hand.


Notable historians are not so fearful of the Mossad as to avoid mentioning connections where they are real...

That these men existed at a time and circumstance that
Piper and Hersh use to create a very good leap of faith,
sells some books and books some seminars - but in the end

the connections are loose and weak as the causal agent for JFK's assassination.


But, as I've said before... in all tall tales there remains many little truths..
Extremists - as we see every time - use ambiguous rhetoric as a rallying cry...

Were there Israeli's and Jews and CIA and,and and intermixed with a common purpose... yes Albert, that is not hard to see.

But pinning the assassination on "Ben-Gurion had a dispute with Kennedy over Israel's attempt to acquire nuclear weapons"
is to ignore the real, right down the Potomac, threat, who actually HAD nukes aimed at commies and pleaded with the man to use them...
Who actually HAD plans to invade Cuba
Who HAD plans for Vietnam where opportunity there DWARFED Israel's concerns in 1963....
Where the US HAD to remain friends with the OIL PRODUCING COUNTRIES of the Middle East... (pssst: we use a lot of oil here)


Pull your head out of Piper's #$% long enough to cite his evidence either from the book or from his sources...
As such a supporter, this should be readily available as you MUST be asked to support your posts all the time...

You really do not have a word doc with copy/paste citations from Piper?
When I can quote Kleins/Waldman/Michaelis exhibits by heart showing why that whole deal was a charade? (to name but ONE example)

In fact... for your edification and the enjoyment of anyone who'd like to check em out....
http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff394/dhjosephs/
(please note - this is NOT all original work... some was saved and used to create new analysis... yet the majority is my work)

This is a part of MY BODY OF EVIDENCE and analysis which I refer to when trying to support my conclusions or assertions

If the EVIDENCE cannot stand on its own, without YOUR HELP EXPLAINING IT TO US...
WHO are you convincing?