22-10-2012, 05:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 22-10-2012, 06:49 PM by David Josephs.)
Thank you Mark for posting those HARSH redacted words...
"As I made clear in my press conference of May 8, we have a
deep commitment to the security of Israel. In addition this country supports
Israel in a wide variety of other ways which are well known to both of us.
"This commitment and this support would be seriously jeopardised in the public opinion in this country and in the West, if it should be thought that this Government was unable to obtain reliable information on a subject as vital to peace as the question of Israel's efforts in the nuclear field."
IOW - JFK asks BG to provide accurate and reliable information on the progress of their reactor/weapons program
as the US is Israel's #1 supporter and defender... provider of weapons and money and, and...
while the Middle East is a powder keg - the US president asks an ally to cooperate... NOT TO STOP DEVELOPING... but to be honest about the situation.
Does JFK get this honesty from his Israeli ally? or does he get more lies?
Seems to me it is BG who straight faced LIES to JFK and the USA about the reactor program.... and its "peaceful" purpose and did so for years with help from the French...
Then again, THANK YOU MARK for at least committing to SOME EVIDENCE...
It is up to the reader themselves to determine if this "information" supports the conclusion.
I for one, am not convinced...
I for one, see a secretive and uncooperative ALLY who is lying to our faces while jeapardizing the Middle East
The USA not only didn't want Israel to have nukes, they didn't want ALL OF the MIDDLE EAST to have nukes...
Some of us can read and see the difference... others, not so much.
DJ
"The Sudanese Ambassador asked whether Prime Minister Ben Gurion had discussed
the reasons for secrecy regarding Israel's second reactor. Mr. Talbot replied
that he had not. It was the President who had raised the question of Israel's
atomic research programs, and he had done so not in terms of history but in
terms of the present and of future intentions. Prime Minister Ben Gurion's
assurance on peaceful uses was firm. "
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...24_61.html4. Ambassador Harman expressed unhappiness with the manner in
which Israel's nuclear development came to the public's attention.
(A project of such significance was bound to become public
knowledge sooner or later. It had already been under way for perhaps two years.
Our Government endeavored to keep the matter secret while waiting for Israel's
official explanation, but was forced to comment when the story "broke" in rather
sensational terms in the British press. There is considerable justification for
the Israel contention that they were compelled to maintain tight security for
fear of Arab harassment of the project. A number of Congressional leaders remain
unhappy that the Israelis kept a development of this importance secret from the
United States in a period when they were operating on a basis of special
confidence to press highly sensitive requests for arms and economic assistance.)
"As I made clear in my press conference of May 8, we have a
deep commitment to the security of Israel. In addition this country supports
Israel in a wide variety of other ways which are well known to both of us.
"This commitment and this support would be seriously jeopardised in the public opinion in this country and in the West, if it should be thought that this Government was unable to obtain reliable information on a subject as vital to peace as the question of Israel's efforts in the nuclear field."
IOW - JFK asks BG to provide accurate and reliable information on the progress of their reactor/weapons program
as the US is Israel's #1 supporter and defender... provider of weapons and money and, and...
while the Middle East is a powder keg - the US president asks an ally to cooperate... NOT TO STOP DEVELOPING... but to be honest about the situation.
Does JFK get this honesty from his Israeli ally? or does he get more lies?
Seems to me it is BG who straight faced LIES to JFK and the USA about the reactor program.... and its "peaceful" purpose and did so for years with help from the French...
Then again, THANK YOU MARK for at least committing to SOME EVIDENCE...
It is up to the reader themselves to determine if this "information" supports the conclusion.
I for one, am not convinced...
I for one, see a secretive and uncooperative ALLY who is lying to our faces while jeapardizing the Middle East
The USA not only didn't want Israel to have nukes, they didn't want ALL OF the MIDDLE EAST to have nukes...
Some of us can read and see the difference... others, not so much.
DJ
"The Sudanese Ambassador asked whether Prime Minister Ben Gurion had discussed
the reasons for secrecy regarding Israel's second reactor. Mr. Talbot replied
that he had not. It was the President who had raised the question of Israel's
atomic research programs, and he had done so not in terms of history but in
terms of the present and of future intentions. Prime Minister Ben Gurion's
assurance on peaceful uses was firm. "
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...24_61.html4. Ambassador Harman expressed unhappiness with the manner in
which Israel's nuclear development came to the public's attention.
(A project of such significance was bound to become public
knowledge sooner or later. It had already been under way for perhaps two years.
Our Government endeavored to keep the matter secret while waiting for Israel's
official explanation, but was forced to comment when the story "broke" in rather
sensational terms in the British press. There is considerable justification for
the Israel contention that they were compelled to maintain tight security for
fear of Arab harassment of the project. A number of Congressional leaders remain
unhappy that the Israelis kept a development of this importance secret from the
United States in a period when they were operating on a basis of special
confidence to press highly sensitive requests for arms and economic assistance.)