21-12-2012, 06:02 PM
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Upon this bog Piper & Company erect their indictment of Israel.
Anonymous hearsay.
Not one hundred pages of endnotes.
A guy heard a guy selling to another guy the third guy's allegation regarding a fourth guy or group of guys--which Piper & Company Expert Appraisers of All Things Jewish (as the term in the allegation is Jews, not Zionists) pronounce the Final Judgment.
Which it is: It sets Piper & Company in the category of psychosis, projecting their bigotry on the auras and penumbras of anonymous informants devoid of the slightest credibility.
The contribution to the quest for justice in the assassination and understanding its deeper context in the business model is negative: it is provocation, disinformation, Hollow Men headpiece full of straw and ergot.
That's good poetry Phil but it's nowhere close to the facts. If we cracked open Piper (which I'm not going to do because I don't have the time) you would see Piper present a very well-detailed body of evidence to back his assertions (add faulty sponsorship claim disclaimer here). It is much more complex and valid than your obviously politically-motivated dismissal. So much so that I would say you were the one committing the errors of bias much more than Piper. As long as people are willing to deal with this at the level of pissing contest it only shows what they are trying to avoid, in my opinion. There's a much better conversation about Piper that is deliberately being avoided here. I find that wholly dishonest.
For people who argue honestly in the real world David entered false information he got backwards and ended up abandoning his arguments. The rest of his material is basically identical to what Lone Nutters do to the conspiracy evidence. There's a basic smell test here that hasn't been passed. That is, would Mosley or Echevarria be likely to have made-up this claim out of nowhere or somehow gotten it wrong? These protests appear as evasive and assuming the long-odds. That's sort of what McAdams and Lone Nutters do. All you have to do to judge these protests is see how they never discuss the Swiss banks or the Lansky/zionist connections to them. People honestly looking in to this would see that network is real and confirmed and has some undeniable conclusions associated with it. It's those conclusions that give Piper credibility and also deny credibility to those who ignore them so freely and for such obvious purposes themselves.
I find it very unlikely and very unbelievable that either Mosley or Echevarria somehow reported their experiences inaccurately. Since some are trying too hard to make that the case I think that says enough. There's a dedicated incuriosity that is more than plain and I'm not sure that Piper is the one guilty of the extreme bias here. In my opinion the flak being thrown up here hasn't overcome the objective verifiability of much of the information Piper presents. The best the opposition can do is heckle and question otherwise obvious things. The suggestion that somehow Echevarria got the "new jew backers" wrong is something that doesn't survive the common sense smell test. I'd like to see the explanation of the people who doubt that for why Echevarria would say such a thing or Mosley would report it inaccurately? This is obvious excuse-making. Any honest deep political investigator would see Piper makes a much greater case using all the evidence that the protestors universally ignore in these threads and therefore dismiss their own credibility.