How the FBI got 3 shots right and hid it - cd298 thanks to Weisberg

[David Josephs]

I think that model is extremely speculative, and involves a conspiracy so clever and sophisticated that none of the actual human beings who make up "The Powers That Be" could really hold something like that together.

I'm a conspiracy realist. I don't believe that the elites are really any smarter than the rest of us; in some cases, they aren't very bright or mentally stable at all. They just have a lot of money and power and connections. The conspiracies and cover-ups they construct are actually rather crude and don't stand up well under examination - but most people don't examine them, and that's the key. If 40% of the the public are watching Corporate Media, and another 40% doesn't watch any news at all, then no story is too ridiculous to sell people who've been brainwashed all their lives by television, Hollywood, consumer culture and advertising. Look how many official versions of JKF's wounds were given to the public between November 1963 and the publishing of the Warren Report. How many people even noticed that? Not many.

I totally concur. There are many aspects of the conspiracy that appear very crude, and hastily improvised. How could they let Oswald get away and get himself arrested. What kind of planning was that? If Greer doesn't slow to a stop the assassination doesn't happen. The whole autopsy business was hastily arranged, because with Oswald alive there was going to be a trial. Same for the two versions of the Z film. If they had to present it as evidence at a trial they needed a pristine original. Once Oswald was shot they could doctor it. What did Dulles say? "the American people don't read."

We are not assuming that the planning did not go off without improvisation.... yet this rebuttal argument is basically

"They were too stupid to do it THAT way"

Thing is guys, it happened the way it happened. What was planned and what wasn't is not something you can know from the outside unless there is evidence... and whether THAT EVIDENCE is false or not
Does insider trading make the Rich SMARTER or simply more KNOWLEDGEABLE coupled with the ability to utilize that knowledge?
Of course they are no SMARTER... the KNOWLEDGE that you are immune from accusation or even awareness of your involvement allows these POWERS THAT BE to try things others wouldn't dream of... as long as anonymity was guaranteed.

That you cannot fathom the planning process does not mean the process did not occur.

The conspiracies and cover-ups they construct are actually rather crude and don't stand up well under examination

And the nuance of this seems lost on you both. i[B]f they are so crude and don't stand up... [/B]tell us, 1/5/25/50 years later, who planned and killed JFK...?. as I/we can illustrate conspiracy/cover-up all day long - and to no end other than a depression at the depth of depravity.


"I'mafraid we were misled," Salandria said sadly. "All the critics,myself included, were misled very early. I see that now. We spent too much time and effort micro-analyzing the details of the assassination when all the time it was obvious, it was blatantly obvious that it was a conspiracy. Don't you think that the men who killed Kennedy had the means to do it in the most sophisticated and subtle way? They chose not to. Instead, they picked the shooting gallery that was DealeyPlaza and did it in the most barbarous and openly arrogant manner. The coverstory was transparent and designed not to hold, to fall apart at the slightest scrutiny. The forces that killed Kennedy wanted the message clear: 'W[B]e are in control and no one -- not the President, nor Congress, nor any elected official -- no one can do anything about it.'[/B] It[B] was a message tothe people that their government was powerless.[/B] And the people eventuallyg ot the message.

We must face that fact -- and not waste any more time micro-analyzing the
evidence. That's exactly what they want us to do. They have kept us
busy for so long. And I will bet, buddy, that is what will happen to
you. They'll keep you very, very busy and, eventually, they'll wear you
down."