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Can't find diagram of shots to jfk from conspiracy point of view?
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I find the single bullet diagram very easily on the net but i have not been able to find a diagram with the shots coming from both the front and back with the adjusted locations contrary to the sbt theory...Is this due to the internet being filtered or lack of diagrams from a conspiracy point of view?....Though i have read many booms i dont recall where and if i have found any diagrams opposing the SBT diagram which we always see any thought please reply im still looking for the true accurate diagram of the incoming shots.
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#2
I think Don Roberdeau's Dealey Plaza diagram covers the angles for the alternate shots.
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#3
True but im looking for head shot diagrams opposed to the sbt theory
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Edwin Ortiz Wrote:I find the single bullet diagram very easily on the net but i have not been able to find a diagram with the shots coming from both the front and back with the adjusted locations contrary to the sbt theory...Is this due to the internet being filtered or lack of diagrams from a conspiracy point of view?....Though i have read many booms i dont recall where and if i have found any diagrams opposing the SBT diagram which we always see any thought please reply im still looking for the true accurate diagram of the incoming shots.

Some CT recognize that the described wounds are not credible and therefore disallow an alternative diagram of the wounding.
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#5
Roberdeau's map:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...=Roberdeau

Without using the SBT, there is not a wide consensus on exactly where the head shot originated. Most cite the grassy knoll and the eyewitness reports of shots and smoke from that direction. Some say the fatal shot came from a guy hiding in a storm drain along the curb to the right side of the limo. Others use other shooter spots from the TSBD. There is also a variety of number of shots ranging from 4 to 8 or more.

I am also obligated to point out that, strictly speaking, the single bullet theory (which describes only the non-fatal wounds of JFK and JC) doesn't in and of itself prove anything with respect to the head shot. It is necessary, however, if you believe Oswald acted alone AND you don't like the FBI's version of events.

After you look at the map, tell us where you think the fatal shot(s) came from.
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Edwin Ortiz Wrote:I find the single bullet diagram very easily on the net but i have not been able to find a diagram with the shots coming from both the front and back with the adjusted locations contrary to the sbt theory...Is this due to the internet being filtered or lack of diagrams from a conspiracy point of view?....Though i have read many booms i dont recall where and if i have found any diagrams opposing the SBT diagram which we always see any thought please reply im still looking for the true accurate diagram of the incoming shots.

"truly accurate diagram" of the incoming shots....I have many - no ONE is on the mark in any one's book - because few agree on exactly where the and how many shooters there were. That said, a little work on your part will land you several theoretical maps - and you'll have to decide for yourself which likely happened and which not. I'm sure there was at least one, likely two shooters from the grassy knoll area; two shooters from the TSBD, one from the Dal-Tex building and a very likely shot from the South Knoll. There might well have been yet one other shot from none of those positions, but closer in to the limo. But others who've studied the case for many decades would quibble over one or two of what I just outlined - or the location and identity [not to mention evidence for] these shooters. Personally, I long ago lost some interest in the detailed subject of bullets, rifles and shooters - after I satisfied myself there were many more than in the official version and that Oswald was not one of them. Someone suggested the plat done by Roberdeau, which has some of the ones I'd subscribe to, but I believe may not have the South Knoll shot I subscribe to. You're going to have to pull up your socks, read a lot [and NOT just on the internet!] and then decide for yourself on matters related to the JFK assassination. I believe if you look on some of the other better websites that contain JFK debates you'll find this one and others.
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#7
It is looking very much like the Zapruder film was altered. Dr Crenshaw saw a wound that coursed down the right side of Kennedy's head and exited through the rear occipital exit wound. Commander Pitzer had photographic evidence of that wound and was assassinated for it. Also, there's enough evidence that a shot was taken from behind the fence at the Grassy Knoll.

It frustrates me that few CT'ers see the obvious that Lee Bowers saw the same event as Ed Hoffman, witnessing the whole fence shooting scenario from a front row seat. Bowers was also assassinated.
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#8
Thanks for all your replies ..i obviously think there were shots from the front fence and or grassy knoll and at least one from the back somewhere either daltex building or texas dep...and 2 shots came practically simultaneuously so it would seem like one ....the head shot slightly fwd movement than tunrn back to left came at the moment 2 shots came at same time...Assuming Zapruder film was not altered ....which is totally up in the air ....
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Edwin Ortiz Wrote:Thanks for all your replies ..i obviously think there were shots from the front fence and or grassy knoll and at least one from the back somewhere either daltex building or texas dep...and 2 shots came practically simultaneuously so it would seem like one ....the head shot slightly fwd movement than tunrn back to left came at the moment 2 shots came at same time...Assuming Zapruder film was not altered ....which is totally up in the air ....

Z-Film was 203% altered~! See threads about that here on the Forum.....I hate to see people re-inventing the wheel and drinking the cool-aide! Read the Douglas Horne materials [massive] on the Z-film!..and doubt no further!
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Quote:Z-Film was 203% altered

What does 203% mean?
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