John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee

[Jim Hargrove]

Jim - my original post is #87, on page 9, here.

Thank you for that. I'm way out of my league here on the MK-ULTRA and other mind-control stuff, but it certainly is interesting to hear there were active MK-ULTRA ops at Atsugi.

The approach John Armstrong took, which soon made me a disciple of his work, followed a simpler and more pedestrian path. He just traveled to D.C., put on the little white evidence gloves at the National Archives, and examined all the original evidence he could get his gloved hands on. And then he bought the FBI "Series 2" microfilm collection from U.M.I., got himself a microfilm reader, and went through the thousands of FBI reports that Hoover wouldn't allow his agents to follow-up on or share. Then he put the subject matter of the most interesting reports into chronological order, and he looked for a story that made sense and, in the end, was relatively simple.

I am intrigued by the hypothesis that two children, Harvey and Lee, may have been part of a highly compartmentalised inteligence operation, whereby either could pass as the individual known as Lee Harvey Oswald in adulthood.

I am happy to explore the hypothesis that Harvey/Lee Oswald was used in a false defection operation against the USSR, by intelligence and possibly MK-ULTRA elements.

My fundamental point though is that, if there was a Harvey and Lee operation, at its beginning, during the childhood of Lee and Harvey, they were simply experimental subjects who could be used in future operations which were not then known.

Certainly not known with any specificity, but if the foreign-born Oswald impersonator understood the Russian language from an early age, that fact alone suggests a certain utility as a future intelligence asset in Soviet matters.

In 1952, those handling Lee and/or Harvey did not have the remotest conception as to the nature of the operations in which the children would be used as adults.

There could certainly have been no conception that LHO would be used in an operation to assassinate an American President.

ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! The early Oswald project would have had nothing to do with the assassination of a president. In 1954, JFK was in the Senate, Batista was elected unopposed in Cuba, and Fidel Castro was in prison. But also in 1954, the Cold War with the Soviet Union was on everyone's mind. I remember the "duck and cover" nuclear war rehearsals in PS-165, my elementary school in NYC. Evidence that the Oswald project became entangled in the Kennedy Assassination begins in Sept./Oct. 1963.

So, as posted above, the key question is who, in 1962-3, had knowledge of the intelligence operations in which LHO had been used, and of the childhood experimentation to which he/they had - hypothetically -been subjected.

The answer to this question - who had knowledge of LHO's inteligence files and background - provides major clues pointing towards the identity of the Facilitator(s) who selected him as a patsy in the assassination of JFK.

Sure sounds productive to me. And it leads to the usual suspects, doesn't it?

Jim