05-10-2013, 01:25 PM
Tony Szamboti Wrote:Tracy Riddle Wrote:"The collective group mind of DPF"?
Sorry, I won't be part of a hive or cult. I have my own mind and I think for myself. If you expect people to become part of the "collective group mind of DPF" it will continue to shrink as it has been lately.
If you don't agree with Jeffrey, then just ignore him and stop arguing with him.
It is probably incorrect to label it as group think, or collective mind, concerning the irritation mentioned by many here regarding Jeffrey Orling's virtual spamming of this forum with his unsupported contentions that the three high rise collapses in NYC on Sept. 11, 2001 were due to natural causes.
I think a more appropriate take on it would be in line with Abraham Lincoln's famous point "You can fool some of the people all of the time, you can even fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time".
When it becomes clear that someone is consistently spamming provable nonsense, which shows they have an agenda other than truth and reality, it is within the rights of an organization to protect itself from that abuse. I think it is apparent that was what was going on here and simply ignoring it does not work very often.
You have your take on it Tony, and that's fine with me. I've no arguments with that. We all tend to have different lenses through which we interpret things.
My Jungian background leads me to think in different directions, that's all.
But let's not turn this into a discussion about terms. A large number of members found Jeffrey's presence here unacceptable because he wouldn't try to grasp the fundamentals of deep politics. Founders have to balance up all sorts of input and try to act fairly. In the end we decided the time was right for Jeffrey to leave.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14