24-10-2013, 07:40 PM
Things to consider:
An "Oswald" was not on the bus... never was. Bledsoe's description is of the man's appears after he was arrested... and AFTER he changes his clothes... (I find that one of the more interesting ignored items of fact.... IF we are to believe Oswald said any of the things Fritz and Bookout say he said, (CE1988 p100 has Bookout confirming that Oswald said he changed his shirt and pants when he got home) then he DEFINITELY changed... and imo was driven to the alley behind the theater by the police car that gave a honk-honk out front... no other way he gets there so fast to be seen by Postal and Burroughs before 1:10.
Mr. BALL - Now, what color shirt did he have on?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - He had a brown shirt.
Mr. BALL - And unraveled?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to the elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.
Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.
Mr. BALL - Did he have anything on. Was the shirt open or was it buttoned?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Yes; all the buttons torn off.
From Bookout's report of the Q&A:
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LEE - who may have been the Tippit killer (at least one of them) - then leads the chase to the theater, goes upstairs to the balcony and is taken aware out the back door AFTER HARVEY has been taken out the front. Whether LEE is the person White sees in the car a bit later is hard to tell... although he did ID him as Oswald.
If it was HARVEY who was arrested and was aware of HIS ROLE with the FBI, at the TSBD replacing Molina, and as the now self aware PATSY... would he not suspect Ruth and by making that statement be giving some clues to the police about something strange at the Paine household, Marina and Michael ??? Or he was just trying to protect his assets ??
As you both have said... WHO/WHAT Harvey Oswald was doing (and I agree that LEE was in the TSBD and seen by REID as he left, while HARVEY was elsewhere.. how HARVEY gets back to his room is a mystery as I don't believe Whaley had anything to do with it) and how that dovetails into Bannister/Shaw/Ferrie sheds light on what HARVEY was doing at the theater. The TSBD had a long history of conservative support in the supplying of arms where needed to fight communism... I believe HARVEY was placed there via Ruth/CIA knowing he was working with the FBI, so they could set him up and insure HOOVER's support in this case, forever.
Mr. BELIN. How did you know the person you saw was Lee Harvey Oswald on the second floor?
Mrs. REID. Because it looked just like him.
Mr. BELIN. You mean the picture with the name Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. REID. Oh, yes.
Mr. BELIN. But you had seen him in the building?
Mrs. REID. Other than that day, sure.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what clothes he had on when you saw him?
Mrs. REID. What he was wearing, h[B]e had on a white T-shirt and some kind of wash trousers[/B]. What color I couldn't tell you
So we have the impoosible scene with the windowed door to the lunchroom and Truly ahead of Baker... along with the man they stopped on the stairs from Baker's affidavit... which imo becomes the lunchroom scene since THIS may have been LEE... or possibly a shooter from the WEST side of the 6th floor
Baker's affidavit wchich is referred to in his questioning yet never addressed.
As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the
stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The
manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and
went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years
old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.
The next person to actually see Oswald is Mrs Roberts at his rooming house:
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. H[B]e was in his shirt sleeves.[/B]
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember.
("Shirt Sleeves" was the term for a white T-shirt and nothing else... could this have been LEE?)
From what I remember Ruth was at home until her "expected DPD guests" arrived.
Mrs. PAINE - I fixed breakfast for myself and my children, turned on the television set to hear President Kennedy speak in Fort Worth, and had breakfast there. I left the house about 9 with my little girl and boy, because she had a dentist appointment, the little girl. I left the television set on, feeling that Marina might not think to turn it on, but I knew that she would be interested to see President Kennedy.
I then was gone until nearly noon, 11:30 or so, both to the dentist and on some errands following that, came back and there was coverage of the fact of the motorcade in Dallas, but there was no television cameras showing it, as you know, and. Marina thanked me for having left the television set on. She said she woke up in kind of a bad mood, but she had seen the arrival of President Kennedy and Mrs. Kennedy at the airport in Dallas, and had been thrilled with this occasion and with the greeting he had received, and it had lifted her spirits.
Very shortly after this time, I had only just begun to prepare the lunch, the announcement was made that the President had been shot, and I translated this to Marina. She had not caught it from the television statement. And I was crying as I did the translation. And then we sat down and waited at the television set, no longer interested in the preparing of lunch, and waited to hear further word.
I got out some candles and lit them, and my little girl also lighted a candle, and Marina said to me, "Is that a way of praying?", and I said "Yes, it is, just my own way." And it was well over an hour before we heard definitely that the President was dead.
An "Oswald" was not on the bus... never was. Bledsoe's description is of the man's appears after he was arrested... and AFTER he changes his clothes... (I find that one of the more interesting ignored items of fact.... IF we are to believe Oswald said any of the things Fritz and Bookout say he said, (CE1988 p100 has Bookout confirming that Oswald said he changed his shirt and pants when he got home) then he DEFINITELY changed... and imo was driven to the alley behind the theater by the police car that gave a honk-honk out front... no other way he gets there so fast to be seen by Postal and Burroughs before 1:10.
Mr. BALL - Now, what color shirt did he have on?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - He had a brown shirt.
Mr. BALL - And unraveled?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to the elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.
Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.
Mr. BALL - Did he have anything on. Was the shirt open or was it buttoned?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Yes; all the buttons torn off.
From Bookout's report of the Q&A:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5425[/ATTACH]
LEE - who may have been the Tippit killer (at least one of them) - then leads the chase to the theater, goes upstairs to the balcony and is taken aware out the back door AFTER HARVEY has been taken out the front. Whether LEE is the person White sees in the car a bit later is hard to tell... although he did ID him as Oswald.
If it was HARVEY who was arrested and was aware of HIS ROLE with the FBI, at the TSBD replacing Molina, and as the now self aware PATSY... would he not suspect Ruth and by making that statement be giving some clues to the police about something strange at the Paine household, Marina and Michael ??? Or he was just trying to protect his assets ??
As you both have said... WHO/WHAT Harvey Oswald was doing (and I agree that LEE was in the TSBD and seen by REID as he left, while HARVEY was elsewhere.. how HARVEY gets back to his room is a mystery as I don't believe Whaley had anything to do with it) and how that dovetails into Bannister/Shaw/Ferrie sheds light on what HARVEY was doing at the theater. The TSBD had a long history of conservative support in the supplying of arms where needed to fight communism... I believe HARVEY was placed there via Ruth/CIA knowing he was working with the FBI, so they could set him up and insure HOOVER's support in this case, forever.
Mr. BELIN. How did you know the person you saw was Lee Harvey Oswald on the second floor?
Mrs. REID. Because it looked just like him.
Mr. BELIN. You mean the picture with the name Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. REID. Oh, yes.
Mr. BELIN. But you had seen him in the building?
Mrs. REID. Other than that day, sure.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what clothes he had on when you saw him?
Mrs. REID. What he was wearing, h[B]e had on a white T-shirt and some kind of wash trousers[/B]. What color I couldn't tell you
So we have the impoosible scene with the windowed door to the lunchroom and Truly ahead of Baker... along with the man they stopped on the stairs from Baker's affidavit... which imo becomes the lunchroom scene since THIS may have been LEE... or possibly a shooter from the WEST side of the 6th floor
Baker's affidavit wchich is referred to in his questioning yet never addressed.
As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the
stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The
manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and
went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years
old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.
The next person to actually see Oswald is Mrs Roberts at his rooming house:
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. H[B]e was in his shirt sleeves.[/B]
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember.
("Shirt Sleeves" was the term for a white T-shirt and nothing else... could this have been LEE?)
From what I remember Ruth was at home until her "expected DPD guests" arrived.
Mrs. PAINE - I fixed breakfast for myself and my children, turned on the television set to hear President Kennedy speak in Fort Worth, and had breakfast there. I left the house about 9 with my little girl and boy, because she had a dentist appointment, the little girl. I left the television set on, feeling that Marina might not think to turn it on, but I knew that she would be interested to see President Kennedy.
I then was gone until nearly noon, 11:30 or so, both to the dentist and on some errands following that, came back and there was coverage of the fact of the motorcade in Dallas, but there was no television cameras showing it, as you know, and. Marina thanked me for having left the television set on. She said she woke up in kind of a bad mood, but she had seen the arrival of President Kennedy and Mrs. Kennedy at the airport in Dallas, and had been thrilled with this occasion and with the greeting he had received, and it had lifted her spirits.
Very shortly after this time, I had only just begun to prepare the lunch, the announcement was made that the President had been shot, and I translated this to Marina. She had not caught it from the television statement. And I was crying as I did the translation. And then we sat down and waited at the television set, no longer interested in the preparing of lunch, and waited to hear further word.
I got out some candles and lit them, and my little girl also lighted a candle, and Marina said to me, "Is that a way of praying?", and I said "Yes, it is, just my own way." And it was well over an hour before we heard definitely that the President was dead.
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter