Oswald questions

[Jim Hargrove]

Can we jump back a bit. Whether there was a Harvey & Lee which I tend to believe or whether there was an Oswald double that day to set him up or whether there was no actual double, just a killer of Tippit to frame Oswald, and, based on what I and I think everyone here believes which is that Osawald didn't kill anyone what did Oswald think he was doing?

Did he just work at the TSBD because Ruth Paine got him a job there before he found something else? and did he or didn't he know who the Paine's were or who de Mohrenchildt was or was he completely used?

Or

Did he have an actual purpose in living in Dallas, living with the Paine's, working at the TSBD?

If. the latter, who was he working for or with? Did he tip off the Chicago Plot? Did he know the Paine's were agents of some sort or specifically CIA? Did he think they were patriots trying to protect JFK? Was he planted there to spy on the Paine's? If so, by whom? Did he think they were bad guys?

If he was supposed to in some way prevent the assassination what if anything do his actions on 11/22 show that indicates that he did to that end?

I think there are two main scenarios, a) the HARVEY/LEE one and b) the CIA manipulated Oswald, who was impersonated by different people in order to make him the patsy. If we take the HARVEY/LEE scenario then I would think HARVEY is mostly in the dark or in keeping with his New Orleans FPFC pose, working with the Paines to ferret out students in Dallas who would be pro Castro. LEE is working with the Dallas anti-Castro Cubans, setting up HARVEY and is most likely one of the TSBD shooters. He shot Tippit because Tippit (assigned to pick up HARVEY and deliver him to those who would then dispose of him) mistook him for HARVEY and attempted to arrest him. He was shot for his trouble and LEE dropped the wallet, improvising a cover. If b) then Oswald was infiltrating the Dallas anti-Castro community and reporting to the FBI. He could have gotten wind of the assassination plot and reported it, while still maintaining his cover. He could have had to play some role in the plan in order to do so. In either case he was unaware of what the Paines were really up to i.e. setting him up.

The best way to answer some of Marlene's questions might be to point out that both Harvey and Lee were intelligence agents, often surrounded by other intelligence agents, and both of them were following orders. In some respects, what they thought and what they believed were irrelevant.

As to Gordon's A/B analysis, whether there were two living, breathing LHOs or just one and a series of impostors, that's an essential question, and to answer it requires a long look at the available evidence. The photographic evidence from Mexico City in 1963 seems to suggest that there were Oswald impostors--at least there--who were neither Harvey nor Lee. But for the most part, the evidence we have for just about everything else seems entirely consistent with just two guys. I can't summarize it all here: it took Armstrong a thousand pages and a CD to cover it all, and my website is becoming just about as long.

But as far back as 1960 Hoover wrote a memo stating that an impostor might be using LHO's birth certificate, and even earlier, school records and USMC evidence often clearly points to two different guys, and there is a wealth of other material. And it is obvious that someone or someones were were setting up Harvey Oswald in the weeks leading up to the assassination. Who better to use than the real LHO?

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At left, LEE Oswald in 1958 from Robert Oswald's book, LEE.
At right, HARVEY Oswald's 1963 DPD mugshot.

Jim