18-12-2013, 10:50 PM
(This post was last modified: 18-12-2013, 11:05 PM by Bruce Baird.)
OK, so I would like to go back to this 1955 Beauregard Junior High School Yearbook photo. I really think coming to terms with this photo is the key to breaking through the Beauregard puzzle (or at the least the key to starting to breakthrough!). Let's see if I can present this better this time around.
So here are the set of pictures of "Lee" Oswald (top) and "Harvey" Oswald (bottom) at harveyandlee.net
![[Image: H&L%20multiple.jpg]](http://harveyandlee.net/H&L%20multiple.jpg)
http://harveyandlee.net/H&L multiple.jpg
As I mentioned in a previous post, if you point your mouse at the picture of "Lee" (top row) in 1952 the caption reads:
American-born Lee Oswald in his 6th grade class photo at Riglea [sic] West Elementary School in Ft. Worth. Classmate Richard Garrett told the FBI that Oswald was the "tallest, most dominant" boy in his class.
If you point your mouse at the picture of "Lee" (top row) in 1954 the caption reads:
Ed Voebel took this picture of LEE Oswald in Oct,1954, in the 8th grade at Beauregard Jr. High in New Orleans, shortly after his fight with Johnny Neumeyer. LEE, according to the Warren Commission. Lee was assigned to homeroom #303 on the upper floor. After studying this photo, Myra Darouse said this was not the Oswald she had known in her homeroom in the basement cafeteria of the same school. Click to see interview with Myra DaRouse.
If you point your mouse at the picture of "Harvey" (bottom row) in 1954 the caption reads:
This is HARVEY Oswald, the boy in Myra Darouse's homeroom class in the basement cafeteria during the Spring of 1954. In the fall of 1954 HARVEY was in the 8th grade at Stripling Jr. High in Ft. Worth, while LEE Oswald was still in New Orleans. Click to watch former assistant principal Frank Kudlaty discuss his memory of handing HARVEY Oswald's Stripling school records to FBI agents soon after the assassination. This evidence all disappeared. Also on You Tube is an interview with former student Fran Schubert, who remembered Harvey at Stripling.
Now look at the top two rows of Jack White's collection of 77 photographs of LHO. (I'm sorry I tried to use iPhoto to crop the top two rows here but I couldn't paste it. I think you can just click on the image below and you can open up the poster to see more clearly the 77 photos).
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http://www.baylor.edu/content/imglib/7/6/4/76475.jpg
When I look at the top row of Jack White's collection of photos, I have no trouble recognizing that this is the same kid. I am a teacher at a K-12 school and have bought a yearbook for the last 14 years. In each yearbook they print the pictures chronologically arranged of students who have attended the school for 12 years. Even though it might be difficult sometimes to match a kindergartener with a 12th grader without the intermediate pictures, whenever you look at the complete series you note there is no break in continuity.
David Josephs has written that he believes that the 3rd picture from the left on the 2nd line -- the 9th grader "Lee Oswald" in the 1955 Beauregard yearbook -- IS the "Lee" Oswald who is pictured in the top line. But I am 99.9% certain that the 3rd picture from the left on the 2nd line is NOT the "Lee Oswald" who showed up in all those pictures in the top line. The website harveyandlee.net would seem to agree with me that the boy in this photo is NOT "Lee" but does not deal with the FACT that this picture of "Harvey" was taken in the fall of 1954 at Beauregard Junior High School at a time when "Harvey" was supposed to be far away in Ft. Worth.
As I have mentioned in previous posts, this 1955 Beauregard yearbook photo is critical because THIS was the photo that the people of New Orleans saw and understood as the historical LHO. The photo showed up in no other city and pretty much disappeared from public memory, to be replaced by the English 202 picture when that was published in Life magazine in February 1964. John Armstrong did not mention or include the 1955 Beauregard yearbook picture in Harvey and Lee and, as far as I know, has never addressed what his position is on this picture.
Is there some way we can settle this once and for all? I wonder if Mr. Hargrove would like to comment with respect to harveyandlee.net? Does Mr. Hargrove believe this picture is "Harvey" Oswald? Also perhaps somebody could get John Armstrong to go on the record whether he believes this picture is "Harvey" Oswald. As I understand it harveyandlee.net is the outlet for John Armstrong's latest and greatest thoughts on Harvey and Lee so I assume the information presented on the website represents his opinions as well, but I would like clarification.
People have spent a lot of time on this thread trying to compare and contrast very fuzzy pictures of Umbrella Man, etc. Surely we should be able to sort out the relatively clear class photos? How about it?
So here are the set of pictures of "Lee" Oswald (top) and "Harvey" Oswald (bottom) at harveyandlee.net
http://harveyandlee.net/H&L multiple.jpg
As I mentioned in a previous post, if you point your mouse at the picture of "Lee" (top row) in 1952 the caption reads:
American-born Lee Oswald in his 6th grade class photo at Riglea [sic] West Elementary School in Ft. Worth. Classmate Richard Garrett told the FBI that Oswald was the "tallest, most dominant" boy in his class.
If you point your mouse at the picture of "Lee" (top row) in 1954 the caption reads:
Ed Voebel took this picture of LEE Oswald in Oct,1954, in the 8th grade at Beauregard Jr. High in New Orleans, shortly after his fight with Johnny Neumeyer. LEE, according to the Warren Commission. Lee was assigned to homeroom #303 on the upper floor. After studying this photo, Myra Darouse said this was not the Oswald she had known in her homeroom in the basement cafeteria of the same school. Click to see interview with Myra DaRouse.
If you point your mouse at the picture of "Harvey" (bottom row) in 1954 the caption reads:
This is HARVEY Oswald, the boy in Myra Darouse's homeroom class in the basement cafeteria during the Spring of 1954. In the fall of 1954 HARVEY was in the 8th grade at Stripling Jr. High in Ft. Worth, while LEE Oswald was still in New Orleans. Click to watch former assistant principal Frank Kudlaty discuss his memory of handing HARVEY Oswald's Stripling school records to FBI agents soon after the assassination. This evidence all disappeared. Also on You Tube is an interview with former student Fran Schubert, who remembered Harvey at Stripling.
Now look at the top two rows of Jack White's collection of 77 photographs of LHO. (I'm sorry I tried to use iPhoto to crop the top two rows here but I couldn't paste it. I think you can just click on the image below and you can open up the poster to see more clearly the 77 photos).
[ATTACH=CONFIG]5582[/ATTACH]
http://www.baylor.edu/content/imglib/7/6/4/76475.jpg
When I look at the top row of Jack White's collection of photos, I have no trouble recognizing that this is the same kid. I am a teacher at a K-12 school and have bought a yearbook for the last 14 years. In each yearbook they print the pictures chronologically arranged of students who have attended the school for 12 years. Even though it might be difficult sometimes to match a kindergartener with a 12th grader without the intermediate pictures, whenever you look at the complete series you note there is no break in continuity.
David Josephs has written that he believes that the 3rd picture from the left on the 2nd line -- the 9th grader "Lee Oswald" in the 1955 Beauregard yearbook -- IS the "Lee" Oswald who is pictured in the top line. But I am 99.9% certain that the 3rd picture from the left on the 2nd line is NOT the "Lee Oswald" who showed up in all those pictures in the top line. The website harveyandlee.net would seem to agree with me that the boy in this photo is NOT "Lee" but does not deal with the FACT that this picture of "Harvey" was taken in the fall of 1954 at Beauregard Junior High School at a time when "Harvey" was supposed to be far away in Ft. Worth.
As I have mentioned in previous posts, this 1955 Beauregard yearbook photo is critical because THIS was the photo that the people of New Orleans saw and understood as the historical LHO. The photo showed up in no other city and pretty much disappeared from public memory, to be replaced by the English 202 picture when that was published in Life magazine in February 1964. John Armstrong did not mention or include the 1955 Beauregard yearbook picture in Harvey and Lee and, as far as I know, has never addressed what his position is on this picture.
Is there some way we can settle this once and for all? I wonder if Mr. Hargrove would like to comment with respect to harveyandlee.net? Does Mr. Hargrove believe this picture is "Harvey" Oswald? Also perhaps somebody could get John Armstrong to go on the record whether he believes this picture is "Harvey" Oswald. As I understand it harveyandlee.net is the outlet for John Armstrong's latest and greatest thoughts on Harvey and Lee so I assume the information presented on the website represents his opinions as well, but I would like clarification.
People have spent a lot of time on this thread trying to compare and contrast very fuzzy pictures of Umbrella Man, etc. Surely we should be able to sort out the relatively clear class photos? How about it?