Sean Murphy's research deserves more

[David Josephs]

Sean's research seems to me to have very little to do with Prayerman and certainly won't crumble if it turns out he's not Oswald.

The bulk of the discussion on RKC regarding this topic is about what the witnesses said and who is it we should trust(because they cannot all be straight(what's new?)). Truly, Baker, BWF, Shelley and others are all being stylishly picked apart.
Although I may have dismissed Reid a little prematurely it wasn't due to ignorance but rather, purely as a result of familiarity with witnesses' claims on top of recent refresher research and there is a pattern in what she said that we see quite often especially amongst the better known ones and it does not match what we are seeing in, in this instance, Darnell and Couch's footage.

It's entirely possible however that just like the woman seen above in Darnell(could it actually be her?), Reid did in fact look up at the windows for some reason before heading back inside and since there is evidence that Jarman would be quite easy to spot even from that part of the street, that too wouldn't be even worth doubting.
What is highly suspect to me however is the very idea that she ran back inside knowing full well that a gunman had just been shootting from an upper floor and one big clue towards credibility comes in the what she claims to have done next.
Instead of warning people that there was a madman still in the building who could be coming this way any second she instead claims she simply spread gossip to the first person she spoke to, she just tells him the president's been shot but "Maybe they didn't hit him".
Sure she did and most likley, what the bloke mumbled back was,
"Oh, you mean that guy on the sixth floor with the bald patch scoffing dem chicken wings?".

I don't see it, sorry.

Is there any chance that the white Tshirt description of hers comes from another source entirely, perhaps the media?

Again Donald? You simply can't let Mrs Reid go, can you?

What is highly suspect to me however is the very idea that she ran back inside knowing full well that a gunman had just been shootting from an upper floor and one big clue towards credibility comes in the what she claims to have done next.
Instead of warning people that there was a madman still in the building who could be coming this way any second she instead claims she simply spread gossip to the first person she spoke to, she just tells him the president's been shot but "Maybe they didn't hit him".

Your 20/20 hindsight is perfect Donald... too bad you weren't there to warn everyone.

That you keep condemning this woman for doing exactly as everyone else in front of the TSBD was doing (either to the RR yard or back inside) is puzzling me.

Your supposition seems to be that she believed she was going TOWARD the shooters location, KNEW the shooter(s) were in the building and DIDN'T tell anyone... maybe she just believed what she saw and what Campbell tells her?

Mrs. REID. And I turned to Mr. Campbell and I said, "Oh, my goodness, I am afraid those came from our building," because it seemed like they came just so directly over my head, and then I looked up in the windows, and saw three colored boys up there, I only recognized one because I didn't know the rest of them so well.
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Mr. BELIN. Before you turned and went back into the building did you---did Mr. Campbell say anything to you?
Mrs. REID. He said, "Oh, Mrs. Reid, no, it came from the grassy area down this way," and that was the last I said to him.
Mr. BELIN. All right. When he said "this way" which direction was he pointing?
Mrs. REID. Well, I hope I get my directions. In the direction of the parade was going, in the bottom of that direction
Mr. BELIN. Now, did you look around after the shots and notice what people were doing?
Mrs. REID. Well, it was just a mass of confusion. I saw people beginning to fall, and the thought that went through my mind, my goodness I must get out of this line of shots, they may fire some more. And don't ask me why I went into the building because I don't know.



I gather you feel the same way about Norman/Jarman/Williams who, knowing a shot was fired from just 10 feet from their heads, decide not only NOT to yell out the windows where they are sitting - not one of them - but to sit there as 2 more shots are fired, supposedly - and then run to the WEST END of the 5th floor.

How about any number of witnesses who both assumed a shot from the TSBD and neither say anything about it WHILE running back into the building....?

What it appears you are doing is PROVING the shots could not have come from the TSBD... is THAT the point Don? If it is, I'm right with you..

Yet back to the thread.... We can agree that PM has some sort of shirt on over the white T... and that this is NOT the same person Reid saw.

Can we agree that Carolyn Arnold says she saw OSWALD by the front door around 12:15

Can we agree that a soda bottle APPEARS to be resting in that same corner on the steps - and this may not be the same things that are in Johnson's hands in the Allen photos out front?

Not a single person ever says they saw OSWALD as they retunred to the TSBD thru the front door... not even years later in an attempt to show the standard, "I did not see OSWALD" line in the reports was just that, boilerplate...
One would have expected someone to have said they saw Oswald on those steps - or if they did and were "corrected" they've never said anything about it.

COULD be why the FBI was so concerned about the Lovelady image... ?? (Just thinking aloud)...