25-12-2013, 04:22 AM
Jim did you get a chance to see my post about what JFK did in West Germany and NATO?
I mean basically reverse the policy that was set to give West Germany nukes?
Without that there is no breakthrough to the USSR and where THAT was going in the Fall of 1963.
It seems that this is an incredibly important breakthrough and reversal of Eisenhower's developing policy that has been overlooked.
It goes right to the heart of cold war issue #1: how should Germany be rebuilt and should it be rearmed. Germany was the keystone of the literal Cold War. There were those who wanted to use it in a more figurative sense as a fig leaf for US imperialism. JFK was literally threatening both in 1963. Without JFK 's flat out reversal in telling Audenauer no nukes, there is no breakthrough with Russia.
And yet on the fake left all we hear is how hawkish JFK sounded in Berlin in 1963! Of course there needed to be some reassurance for NATO after the right was so thoroughly smacked in the face by telling them no autonomous NATO nukes. Also note that this degree of NATO autonomy over nukes is perhaps the loudest point of disagreement in the whole Excom meeting, when JFK had it out with Nitze over Nato s ability to answer a perceived attack without checking with the White House first [see Averting The Final Failure] This Germany shift of JFK 's has been overlooked IMO.
I mean basically reverse the policy that was set to give West Germany nukes?
Without that there is no breakthrough to the USSR and where THAT was going in the Fall of 1963.
It seems that this is an incredibly important breakthrough and reversal of Eisenhower's developing policy that has been overlooked.
It goes right to the heart of cold war issue #1: how should Germany be rebuilt and should it be rearmed. Germany was the keystone of the literal Cold War. There were those who wanted to use it in a more figurative sense as a fig leaf for US imperialism. JFK was literally threatening both in 1963. Without JFK 's flat out reversal in telling Audenauer no nukes, there is no breakthrough with Russia.
And yet on the fake left all we hear is how hawkish JFK sounded in Berlin in 1963! Of course there needed to be some reassurance for NATO after the right was so thoroughly smacked in the face by telling them no autonomous NATO nukes. Also note that this degree of NATO autonomy over nukes is perhaps the loudest point of disagreement in the whole Excom meeting, when JFK had it out with Nitze over Nato s ability to answer a perceived attack without checking with the White House first [see Averting The Final Failure] This Germany shift of JFK 's has been overlooked IMO.