26-02-2014, 04:30 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:I am going to try to do my version what you are saying.
First, from the full frame, I identify African-American Man, probably already given another name, as AFM and Lovelady (BL) and Prayer Man (PM).
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Notice all three persons in the upper left.
Good. Correct. The above illuminated hand photo is from Wiegman.
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Notice AFM and BL are both visible. Draw an imaginary line between AFM and BL. According to your theory, Albert, PM should be visible in this image framed by BL's torso. He's not there. Therefore, he has to be back to BL's left in the shade.
No. My theory doesn't say that. Altgens is very deceptive because the lens type compresses the perspective significantly. There's a lot more room and depth to Lovelady's right than Altgens suggests. Realize that Lovelady is on the center rail in Altgens which shows how much of the portal's west half is obscured by the facade pillar. Enough to allow Prayer Man to be slightly forward of Lovelady in the North to South plane of the portal while not being visible in Altgens.
You have to be careful though because the illuminated hand picture is not the same photo as Altgens. You are comparing two opposite angles. You have to remember there's a 90 degree perspective shift between the photos. If you look at the illuminated hand photo it shows Prayer Man slightly forward of Lovelady. If you did high tech analysis you would see that anatomically Prayer Man's hand could only be a certain distance from his body according to his posture. Once you calculated the shade plane you would see the geometric triangulation would place Prayer Man slightly ahead of Lovelady. He can still be in the shade and be ahead of Lovelady on the North-South plane. But you can just look at the picture and see it as well.
yes, the indeed are about 90[SUP]0[/SUP] off axis, which is why they are so valuable. They can be thought of as setting up an xy grid. The negative end of the y-axis points of the scree toward the viewer, and let's say it pass right through PM. The Altgen 6 photo is looking nearly right down the x-axis with the negative end passing through AFM and the positive end passing through BL. From looking at these two photos, one can roughly locate PM on this grid. But you have to use BOTH. Looking along the x-axis (Altgen 6), it is clear BL does not break that plane. He is behind both AFM and BL. Looking along the y-axis (Weigman), it is clear that he is to the right of BL and to the left of AFM. His values on this imaginary grid and this my guess: y=3' and x=0.
Why is this significant? Anything along the AFM/BL plane is in the sun. Any person along that plane would be very visible. PM is not visible. To me, I see him as leaning against the corner of the entry.
Having said all this, I am reasonably certain you and I will never agree. Just won't happen. If anyone can settle this, that would help.
So, once again, why does this matter to you? You have accused some people of trying to place Oswald in the entry way. Why is this important to you?
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