Detailed discussion and analysis of the H&L evidence

[Jim Hargrove]

How does the Bolton Ford Incident support the H & L hypothesis? The traditional interpretation, I thought, is that the use of the LHO name only indicates his prior association with intelligence work generally or with the anti-Castro cause specifically.

Yes, throughout so much of the history of Official LHO, he seems to be impersonated by someone time and time again. How many times do we accept yet another impersonation until we begin to suspect something else must be at play here? In the Bolton Ford case, since Lee HARVEY Oswald was clearly in Russia during these years, what were researchers to think?

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And just a few months later, Oswald is again trying to buy a car in New Orleans, this time at the Dumas and Milnes dealership.

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These are not casual sightings, and there are many more. Either Oswald was being impersonated time after time over a period extending a full decade, or there were two Oswalds.

Also, didn't Gaeton Fonzi obliterate Marita Lorenz's credibility? I'm not implying that she hadn't been involved in at least that Castro assassination plot, and I don't think Fonzi did either, but her credibility otherwise seemed wanting.

I wouldn't dismiss her sworn testimony so lightly. Look at the wringer the HSCA put her through (my emphasis toward end):

Mr. Fithian. "Mrs. Lorenz, has your attorney explained what perjury before a

congressional committee is all about?"

Marita Lorenz. "That is right, yes."

Mr. Fithian. "Do you understand that."

Marita Lorenz. "Yes."

Mr. Fithian. "In any way do you want to change your testimony on these dates."

Marita Lorenz. "No, I do not."

Mr. Fithian. "There is adequate documentary evidence that "Lee Harvey

Oswald" did not indeed return from the Soviet Union until June of 1962.

Marita Lorenz. "I don't know about that."

Mr. Fithian. "Therefore you could not have met him at the Safehouse in 1960,

you could not have seen him in the Everglades in 1960 and 1961, and you

could not have taken a picture in those areas and could not have a picture

for the dates of that time."

Marita Lorenz. "No?"

Mr. Fithian. "It is not possible."

Marita Lorenz. "I don't know about that."

Mr. Fithian. "Now can you explain to the committee why you gave us this false

information as far as dates."

Marita Lorenz. "I did not give you false information."

Mr. Fithian. "Mrs. Lorenz, I went over your testimony very carefully a moment

ago and you assured me that you met Lee Harvey Oswald prior to the Bay

of Pigs."

Marita Lorenz. "I did."

Mr. Fithian. "On two occasions."

Marita Lorenz. "Yes."

Mr. Fithian. "Lee Harvey Oswald was in Russia during that entire period."

Marita Lorenz. "I do not know that. I did not know that. The Lee Harvey

Oswald that I met was the same in that picture, the one in the Safehouse,

the same one that Frank knows. I do not know where he was according to

your information. I do not know. I never read up on anything about these

theories that are coming out about him."

Mr. Fithian. "This is not a matter of theory."

Marita Lorenz. "I know I am telling the truth. If you don't want it, that's too bad,

you know. I am here to gain nothing, you know. Nothing. Nothing at all. You

are trying a homicide investigation that should be solved, you know. Don't

dispute me or put me on trial."

Mr. Fithian. "Only if we can have full and truthful testimony."

Marita Lorenz. "You have got it. You have it from me. I don't know about the

other people. I have nothing to lose and nothing to hide-nothing."

Mr. Fithian. "And it is your testimony that you are certain that the person you

met at the Safehouse and at the camps of the Everglades is the same per*

son that you met in Dallas?"

Marita Lorenz. "Yes, it is."

Mr. Fithian. "Do you have any explanation for how we come up with two 'Lee

Harvey Oswalds' during this period?"

Marita Lorenz. "I have no explanation. I know the man I met; he was a creep,

I didn't like him. I don't have to be here at all. I have nothing to gain."

Mr. Fithian. "Thank you. That is all."

I hope even skeptics of the two Oswalds will take the time to read Harvey and Lee. It may change your mind, and in the unlikely event it doesn't, you will still learn a whole lot.

Jim