Discrediting Secret Service complicity in the elimination of JFK…

[Charles Drago]

Shots from inside the presidential limousine

1.Bobby Hargis (Police motorcycle outrider, left rear of limousine):
Mr. Stern: Do you recall your impression at the time regarding the shots?
Hargis: “Well, at the time it sounded like the shots were right next to me,” 6WCH294.

So the "left rear of the limousine" is "right next to" Greer's position? You're 0 for 1.

2. Austin Miller (railroad worker, on triple overpass):
Mr. Belin: “Where did the shots sound like they came from?”
Miller: “Well, the way it sounded like, it came from the, I would say right there in the car,” 6WCH225.

So the triple overpass affords an ideal acoustic environment for identification of shot origins in the Dealey Plaza echo chamber? 0 for 2.

3. Charles Brehm (carpet salesman, south curb of Elm St.): “Drehm [sic] seemed to think the shots came from in front or beside the President. He explained the President did not slump forward as if [sic] he would have after being shot from the rear,” “President Dead, Connally Shot,” The Dallas Times Herald, 22 November 1963, p.2 [cited by Joachim Joesten. Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy? (London: Merlin Press, 1964), p.176.]

So "in front" and "beside" imply proximity and are not mutually exclusive in this case? 0 for 3.

4. Officer E. L. Boone (policeman, corner of Main and Houston Streets):" I heard three shots coming from the vicinity of where the President's car was,” 19WCH508.

So "from the vicinity" implies inside the car? 0 for 4.

5. Jack Franzen: “He said he heard the sound of an explosion which appeared to him to come from the President's car and ...small fragments flying inside the vehicle and immediately assumed someone had tossed a firecracker inside the automobile,” 22WCH840.

So Franzen could not possibly be describing the effects of one/both of the headshots and therefore must be describing a Greer shot? 0 for 5.

6. Mrs. Jack Franzen: “Shortly after the President’s automobile passed by…she heard a noise which sounded as if someone had thrown a firecracker into the President’s automobile…at approximately the same time she noticed dust or small pieces of debris flying from the President’s automobile,” 24WCH525.

As above. 0 for 6.

You and A-Rod should hang out in October. You have much in common.

7. James Altgens: “The last shot sounded like it came from the left side of the car, if it was close range because, if it were a pistol it would have to be fired at close range for any degree of accuracy," 7WCH518.

So "if it were a pistol" implies that "it" was a "pistol" to the exclusion of all other possibilities? And we're talking photographer Altgens and not ballistics expert Altgens? And "if it was close range" establishes same? 0 for 7.

8. Hugh Betzner, Jr.: “I cannot remember exactly where I was when I saw the following: I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car. My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air,” 19WCH467

Please see my 0 for 5 and 0 for 6 responses. 0 for 7.

So, then, no one saw or heard shots from inside the presidential limousine?

Correct.