02-06-2014, 06:03 PM
All I can say out loud here is "wow... just wow." The POINT is that you are not a mind reader at all yet you post with such a definitive position one MUST make the assumption that you can and do read minds, both past and present.... while only offering the words of our gov't leaders as supporting evidence.
das ist eine gute ein!
That you connect the Objective of the BOP Plan as it was executed, to the desire to rid the Western Hemisphere of Communism is, well, a shock Scott and as I said very naive.
No, not me, the plan to rid communism from the Western Hemisphere was pushed by our 34[SUP]th[/SUP] president Dwight David "Ike" Eisenhower and company. There is nothing naive about that at all.
My philosophy? huh? You need to research this Scott because you actually believe that the BOP was ultimately a plan against Communism... it may have started that way as the impetus of the idea... but what occurred in those April days had little if anything to do with defeating Castro... and everyone knew it but the Executive Branch...
Ja, ich weiß, oder sollte ich sagen, ich weiß nichts, und Sie wissen es alle, oder?
Maybe answer this Scott... if this was that obvious and direct an objective - remove the specter of communism from 90 miles away - why was your father and mother hounded and hunted when there were no ulterior motives? We they a threat to the USA's ability to fight Communism?
My parents had nothing to do with the BOP, how could you remove "the specter of communism" when that was the problem in the first place? My mother as you say, didn't become "hounded" until after the death of my father, it appears that both three letter agencies wanted to know what my father's relationship with Sturgis was, as if they already didn't know. What they really wanted to know is if my mother knew about the photo's my father stole which my mother remained faithfully quite about for more than 35 years, and only now she's telling all because I decided to write my book. In-fact it took a few years before my mother would open up to me about the information my father processed this is not something that just happened over night. I don't understand why you're asking about my parents when you know nothing about them.
Posting the "facts as the media gave them to us" is akin to telling me that 911 was Saddam's doing, which is what the PR agency was paid to convince America... at one point over 90% of Americans believed Saddam was involved in 911....
Sorry, but, I'm apart of that 10% according to your statistics that believes Bin Laden is the one responsible not Saddam.
The KGB and Fidel Castro were two entities the CIA simply could not crack...
Could you please tell me how you have arrived at this conclusion?
Another thought. Only 5 years later the ex-VP was now the most powerful man on the planet... and still no real interest or luck in Cuba...
If BOP was initially shepparded along by Nixon... and Communism was still only 90 miles away in 1963,4,5,6,7,8....
I'm willing to bet that you don't even know why Watergate happened? Did you know that it was Nixon that shut down the CIA in Moa Cuba? Did you know that their were thirty remaining frogmen stationed there and Eugenio Rolando Martinez was one of them? Did you know that Mr. Martinez was also one of the burglars that wanted Nixon (out of office)? I see there is a lot that you do not know.
Why all the focus on SE Asia....? y'know other than the massive amount of drug money, the ousting of the French/Corsican drug mobs, the HUGE expenditure of military hardware, and the complete disregard for US citizen's rights and privacy...
Did you know that folks like Frank Lucas and the drug lords of this country used our government to import the drugs supplied? Read Barry and the Boys.
No Scott... BOP was designed, at the time of its execution, to embarrass JFK into action or into non-action. Either way the cabal wins...
Okay, wenn du es sagst.
Ridding the Western Hemisphere of Communism,or the world for that matter is a joke being played upon us to misdirect the bewildered herds into thinking we are actually doing something in that area, much like drugs and poverty... lip service. When Communism finally does implode upon itself due to nothing more than expenses... the bogeyman became TERRORISM.... the never ending cycle of "hot spots", while the military budget grows yet drugs and poverty, civil rights, human rights and privacy and the middle class have eroded away to nothing.
WTH are you talking about?
Scott... I have nothing against you or your family... but please don't preach to those who have spent decades studying the topic, that what we see and and what we are told via "government documents" is really how it is, was or ever will be... even more so if related to CIA, ONI, MID, MIA, SIS, etc, etc, etc.....
Ditto! He who has an ear, let him hear, I did not come here to teach or preach you anything, old dogs can not be taught new tricks, as I said, long before you were studying this my father was involved.
Habba good day!
das ist eine gute ein!
That you connect the Objective of the BOP Plan as it was executed, to the desire to rid the Western Hemisphere of Communism is, well, a shock Scott and as I said very naive.
No, not me, the plan to rid communism from the Western Hemisphere was pushed by our 34[SUP]th[/SUP] president Dwight David "Ike" Eisenhower and company. There is nothing naive about that at all.
My philosophy? huh? You need to research this Scott because you actually believe that the BOP was ultimately a plan against Communism... it may have started that way as the impetus of the idea... but what occurred in those April days had little if anything to do with defeating Castro... and everyone knew it but the Executive Branch...
Ja, ich weiß, oder sollte ich sagen, ich weiß nichts, und Sie wissen es alle, oder?
Maybe answer this Scott... if this was that obvious and direct an objective - remove the specter of communism from 90 miles away - why was your father and mother hounded and hunted when there were no ulterior motives? We they a threat to the USA's ability to fight Communism?
My parents had nothing to do with the BOP, how could you remove "the specter of communism" when that was the problem in the first place? My mother as you say, didn't become "hounded" until after the death of my father, it appears that both three letter agencies wanted to know what my father's relationship with Sturgis was, as if they already didn't know. What they really wanted to know is if my mother knew about the photo's my father stole which my mother remained faithfully quite about for more than 35 years, and only now she's telling all because I decided to write my book. In-fact it took a few years before my mother would open up to me about the information my father processed this is not something that just happened over night. I don't understand why you're asking about my parents when you know nothing about them.
Posting the "facts as the media gave them to us" is akin to telling me that 911 was Saddam's doing, which is what the PR agency was paid to convince America... at one point over 90% of Americans believed Saddam was involved in 911....
Sorry, but, I'm apart of that 10% according to your statistics that believes Bin Laden is the one responsible not Saddam.
The KGB and Fidel Castro were two entities the CIA simply could not crack...
Could you please tell me how you have arrived at this conclusion?
Another thought. Only 5 years later the ex-VP was now the most powerful man on the planet... and still no real interest or luck in Cuba...
If BOP was initially shepparded along by Nixon... and Communism was still only 90 miles away in 1963,4,5,6,7,8....
I'm willing to bet that you don't even know why Watergate happened? Did you know that it was Nixon that shut down the CIA in Moa Cuba? Did you know that their were thirty remaining frogmen stationed there and Eugenio Rolando Martinez was one of them? Did you know that Mr. Martinez was also one of the burglars that wanted Nixon (out of office)? I see there is a lot that you do not know.
Why all the focus on SE Asia....? y'know other than the massive amount of drug money, the ousting of the French/Corsican drug mobs, the HUGE expenditure of military hardware, and the complete disregard for US citizen's rights and privacy...
Did you know that folks like Frank Lucas and the drug lords of this country used our government to import the drugs supplied? Read Barry and the Boys.
No Scott... BOP was designed, at the time of its execution, to embarrass JFK into action or into non-action. Either way the cabal wins...
Okay, wenn du es sagst.
Ridding the Western Hemisphere of Communism,or the world for that matter is a joke being played upon us to misdirect the bewildered herds into thinking we are actually doing something in that area, much like drugs and poverty... lip service. When Communism finally does implode upon itself due to nothing more than expenses... the bogeyman became TERRORISM.... the never ending cycle of "hot spots", while the military budget grows yet drugs and poverty, civil rights, human rights and privacy and the middle class have eroded away to nothing.
WTH are you talking about?
Scott... I have nothing against you or your family... but please don't preach to those who have spent decades studying the topic, that what we see and and what we are told via "government documents" is really how it is, was or ever will be... even more so if related to CIA, ONI, MID, MIA, SIS, etc, etc, etc.....
Ditto! He who has an ear, let him hear, I did not come here to teach or preach you anything, old dogs can not be taught new tricks, as I said, long before you were studying this my father was involved.
Habba good day!