07-07-2014, 05:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-07-2014, 05:51 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Seymour was 26 in 1963 [although Tosh and some others now claim this photo was taken some years after 1963], but the guy in the 'Barry and the Boys photo' looks much older, so it almost surely isn't Seymour!
I never said it was Seymour, I've already told you it's Gonzalez, Sturgis' Watergate buddy, who Sturgis has his arm around, wow! I can't believe that Hopsicker and so many really know who's in this photo, but yet refuse to take my word for it why?
I posted some background information taken from various sources on Operation-40.
My post about the age of Seymour in or near 1963 was NOT targeted at you; however, you seem to feel this thread is yours?!..or posts directed only at you?! I think not to both. This is a public Forum.
By the way, if you don't want to believe Plumlee, fine; but why should we believe you about who is in the front-right or who is hiding his face?!
We are hopefully all working to expose the truth. Many lies have been and still are told by covert operatives [or retold by those who were told by them - or involved in Mockingbird/Sunstein/disinformation-type operations]. Others have made honest mistakes.
State your evidence - show your compared photos, faces or facts; but, whatever, you'll just have to learn to deal with other people's opinions and research - which might not agree with your own. I worked with Plumlee on a face-to-face basis for years and have many photos of him from that time period. From the moment I saw that photo to this moment I thought/think it is likely Plumlee - which Plumlee confirms. That is not proof - that is my 'take' and Plumlee's statement. If you have another view, fine, but present your evidence and then accept that not everyone is going to fall on the knees and realize they were wrong and you are, somehow, correct.
One last point....unless I can't read any more or am very confused by your posts, you didn't say it was Gonzalez, you said it was Droller/Bender!...making your view of who you believe it is ever more 'murky'.
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