30-07-2009, 08:03 AM
Mark Stapleton Wrote:John seems to think the Israel issue is not worth mentioning. That's his call. I think this kind of omission will diminish the final product--that's my call. Í'm not here to tell people how to make docos or lecture them. I'm just expressing my opinion.
I agree that it's his call, and that you're entitled to your opinion. I didn't intend to appear combative with you, nor to try to appear as a 'referee' in the matter; my intent was simply to lightly echo others in thinking that your expressed view is the first I've heard of any such theory or angle. So I didn't mean to be putting it (or you) down, but rather wanting to hear more in detail and suggesting that you develop it in detail.
I think that what we're all about here is airing our viewpoints and arguments and evidence out in the open and letting everyone raise questions, doubts, or support, which can only strengthen our collective ability to bring deep politics, its mechanisms, operations and consequences to the surface so that more and more people can see it all for what it is and act more knowledgeably and effectively for having seen and understood it.
Certainly the more recent and current issues involving the Israeli state and its methods, official and non-official actors, etc. are of concern; if there is a strong link between what is going on today with what went down then, I'd like to see that argument fleshed out, developed and expressed.
Some say, when such thoughts are expressed, that it is anti-Semitic in nature, which is just so much BS. As a US citizen, I respond that I'd be equally concerned if it was the Principality of Andorra ("much of whose defense budget is spent on blank ammunition which is fired off on national holidays") that was so pervasively and perversely involved in the politics and policies of America. The irony of the thing is that Kennedy himself was the target of charges that he would do the bidding of the Pope.
And I hope I'll be around to see your work, John's, more from all who are here, more members here and active in some way, and some meaningful impact as a result of it. And I hope that my one-year old grandson will grow up and say "there were people back then who cared enough to find the slim veins of truth running underneath the swamps".
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"